Ciena Struts Its Stuff

While other optical networking companies stumble in the economic slowdown, Ciena Corp. (Nasdaq: CIEN) continues to turn out impressive results.

In releasing its second-quarter earnings this morning, Ciena reported revenue of $425.4 million for its second fiscal quarter ended April 30, 2001, a 20 percent increase over first-quarter levels and a 129 percent increase over the $187.7 million in revenue Ciena reported in the second quarter of last year (see Ciena Reports Q2 Earnings).

Ciena reported adjusted net income of $65.4 million or 20 cents per diluted share for the second quarter. That excludes approximately $75.7 million in charges related to the acquisition of Cyras Systems Inc., as well as other special charges.

The earnings and revenue growth comes in dramatic contrast to some of Ciena's competitors, including Sycamore Networks Inc. (Nasdaq: SCMR) and Nortel Networks Corp. (NYSE/Toronto: NT), both of which recently experienced revenue shortfalls and massive losses (see Sycamore Drops a Bomb and Nortel: Losses and Layoffs, Eh?).

Ciena's second-quarter figures exceeded the company’s guidance and analyst estimates. The average analyst profit estimates were for 18 cents per share, according to First Call. Ciena officials stuck to their previous growth estimates for the future, saying annual revenue growth for 2001 should be between 95 percent and 100 percent over 2000 levels. The company expects to earn 72 cents to 75 cents per share during fiscal year 2001.

In early trading Ciena shares gained ground, but by the end of the day they had given all of it back to close at 56.75, down 2.15 (-3.65%).

Ciena also made some management moves. Current President and Chief Operating Officer Gary Smith will now become President and Chief Executive Officer. Patrick Nettles, formerly the CEO and Chairman, will assume the role of Executive Chairman, focused on the long-term strategic direction of the company.

The company said it added eight new customers during the quarter, bringing total customer count to 49, 33 of which contributed during the second quarter. The new customers included Genuity Inc. (Nasdaq: GENU), Level 3 Communications Inc. (Nasdaq: LVLT), TyCom Ltd. (NYSE: TCM; BSX: TCM), and Dynegy Inc. (NYSE: DYN).

The tone of the conference call was generally optimistic and confident. Ciena officials said their strong results come from telecommunications providers shifting spending from legacy technology to next-generation optical networking equipment.

”While carriers are reducing overall capex, they are spending more on next-generation equipment,” said CEO Smith. “This next-generation equipment allows them to spend less and reduce capital expenditure. We continue to believe that Ciena is well positioned to break away from the pack.”

However, Ciena officials did issue a few words of caution: They said the company was “not immune” to the macroeconomic slowdown and that gross margins could come under pressure. Pricing pressure on its long-haul optical transport products was the greatest concern. “We’ve seen evidence of at least one competitor resorting to desperate pricing tactics,” said Smith. “This turbulent period is likely to lead to increasingly desperate measures for competitors."

Gross margins for the quarter rose to 45.6 percent, up from 44.5 percent in the first quarter. Ciena officials said it is possible that number could fall as much as one percent in the next quarter because of pricing pressure from competitors.

Smith said Ciena’s long-haul transport systems, the MultiWave CoreStream and MultiWave Sentry, continue to be the largest contributors to revenue. Systems sales outpace channel card sales, and new customers are starting to buy 10-Gbit/s transmission equipment.

In other product lines, Ciena officials said the CoreDirector optical switching business continues to grow, representing more than 10 percent of the quarter's revenue. But CoreStream still represents the lion’s share of Ciena’s growth, increasing 50 percent over first-quarter levels.

Ciena officials also noted that the company had taken its first order for its K2 metropolitan networking system, which it procured in the acquisition of Cyras. That order came from Level 3. The details of the contract were not provided, but company officials said they expect to realize revenue from the K2 plaform in the fourth quarter.

— R. Scott Raynovich, Executive Editor, Light Reading
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scared 12/4/2012 | 8:25:06 PM
re: Ciena Struts Its Stuff any guess as which vendor this is?
Rugger 12/4/2012 | 8:25:04 PM
re: Ciena Struts Its Stuff NT and LU
iprsvp 12/4/2012 | 8:25:04 PM
re: Ciena Struts Its Stuff NT/CORV. Most probably NT.
rredfield 12/4/2012 | 8:25:01 PM
re: Ciena Struts Its Stuff My Ciena Notes from Today

These are preliminary CIENA Notes from Q2 F2001 earnings release and conference call.



These notes are prior to release or review of Form 10-Q

Price: $59.75
5-Year Price Target: N/A

Opinion: Strong Sell (see disclaimer at link below)
Shares Outstanding: 306,329 m
Market Capitalization: 18,379 million
Estimated 5-year growth rate: 40 %
Symbol / Exchange: CIEN/NASDAQ

1. Proforma and GAAP Gross Margin is 45.50 %. This is similar to previous quarter.

2. DSO (days sales outstanding) of Accounts Receivable is 57 days. This is an improvement from Q1'01 of 64 days.
3. Inventory turns dropped to 3.4 times from Q1'01 of 3.7 X.

4. Debt to Equity ratio is 22.40 %. There was no debt prior to this quarter. This is known as a fundamentally healthy percentage. Just needs to be monitored closely in the future, especially since there is no short-term debt.

5. Current Ratio is 4.28 from 4.72. Very healthy number.

Cash increased 1,241 million
Accounts Receivable increased 16 million
Inventory increased 68.8 million
Revenues increased 73.4 million
Research and Development increased 10.6 million
Accounts Payable and Accrued Expenses increased 71 million
Current Liabilities increased 69 million
Long Term Debt increased 859 million
Goodwill increased 2,028 million (Cyras)
Other Assets increased 128 million

7. Shares outstanding increased by 19.328 million shares. (Approximately $1,159,680,000 in market capitalization.

8. Acid Test Ratio (CA - Inventory)/ CL = 7.27 (very healthy)

A. Equity Ratio at Market = Common equity at market value / Tangible assets - accrued payables

Using share price of $ 60
shares outstanding of 306,329,000

market capitalization = $ 18,379,740
Tangible assets = $ 2,931,066
Accrued payables = $252,422

Equity Ratio at Market = 6.86

10. Tangible Book Value is 5.73 per share.

11. The Motley Fool Flow ratio is 2.744. This is an improvement from Q1'01 of 3.30. This link explains the Flow Ratio. An ideal flow ratio is < 1.25. This is not a CIENA concern, since they just came off of a large funding, etc. Just another tool to watch.


Flow Ratio = (CA - Cash and CE)/ (CL - STD)

CA = 2,243,731
CE = 1,501,375
CL = 270,571
STD = 0

Flow Ratio = 2.744

12. Looking forward to discussion of allowance for doubtful accounts.

13. Quarterly percentage increase of

Sales 21 %
Accounts Receivable 6 %
Inventory 33 %

Conference Call Notes

1. Strong demand by certain customers.

2. Highest concentration of total customers.

3. Two 10 % customers. Both were North American. Both included 52 % of total Revenues. Previously were 63 %. International was down and 13.4 %.

4. Core Director > 10 % of total revenues.

5. CoreStream related revenues increased from last quarter.

6. OC-192 and OC-48 increased.

7. Discussed use of proforma net income. Discussed that Proforma net income was 75 million than GAAP net income. Failed to mention that GAAP net income was actually a Net Loss.

8. Working capital increased 1.2 billion.

9. Inventory increase came in area of finished goods. Longer trial and instillation of core director. Also some order delays and shipment reassignments. According to CIENA this is not a concern.

10. Headcount is 3860 or increase of 21 %. Includes about 270 Cyras employees. In contrast to rest of industry, CIENA continues to hire.

11. Seeing customers slowing down orders. Mentions that not immune to environment, but, better positioned than others. Sees move towards spending on next generation versus legacy products.

12. Seeing increasing evidence that open architecture is taking market share from closed architecture systems.

13. Market share in Long Haul being taken from Legacy.

14. Metro has 9 customers in quarter. CIENA believes metro has opportunities. Cyras fits into this mold as it is forming the Metro Switching Division. Cyras K2 platform is ready for minimal shipment. Has a signed contract with Level 3.

15. Core director has been shipped to 15 commercial customers. Trial base should expand. CoreDirector is early in ramp, revenue recognition criteria of Customers may make CoreDirector less than 10 % of revenues in a future quarter. Expects CoreDirector to be greater than 10 % for Fiscal 2001.

16. Pricing concessions by competitors are possibly causing uncertainties in gross margins.

17. Confident of future and positive of CIENA's position in optical networking.

18. Seeing customers taking dramatic pricing pressures. This could decrease gross margins by 100 basis points.

19. Expects K2 to cause gross margin pressures until volume picks up. Expects K2 revenues to become reportable in Q4'01.

20. 3rd quarter will show a full quarter of full Cyras expenses. Sales and marketing expenses will be 10 %, R&D 12 % and G& A (I missed this). Suggested raising cost parameters in models. Also mentioned to watch the extra shares.

21. Sell side eps is about 0.73 for F2001. Based on guidance they expect eps for F2001 to be $0.72 to $0.75

22. F2002 guidance over F2001 should be between 45 - 65 %.

Question and Answers.

23. Sivlerstein from Robbie Stephens : CIENA says CoreDirector has 15 customers. Sileverstein asks about competition for CoreDirector. CIENA says little competition, maybe Tellium so far. Looking to max sales during this low competition period. K2 revenue wont be disclosed on level 3 deal.

24. henderson from SSB ..... Vast majority of CoreDirector sales is replacement of legacy systems, from ADM's to Cross Connects. Transport pricing pressure is longer haul transport. Pricing of Metro other than CoreDirector is showing potential pricing challenges. CoreDirector is seeing no pricing challenges, yet. Long Haul vs. Metro is not split up. Yet Metro is NOT 10 %.

25. Dain Rauschler.....OC-192 on transport has about 10 customers. Looking in crystal ball for Long haul vs. Metro. Metro should be 10 % or a little higher moving forward.

26. UBS Warburg......10 % customers had no new ingredient. Therefore we can conclude that 10 % rs were Qwest and Sprint (my guesses not in CC). Long Haul and Core Director grew about 20 %. Metro was flat. Long Haul doing great. Long Haul is primarily new systems and not necessarily channel adds.

27. Goldman Sachs.....major long builds will not be disclosed in this CC. Much of this from North American perspective is in public domain. CoreDirector has great synergies with CoreStream. This is showing traction on transport side. With CoreDirector and K2 they can provide a full solution for integration. Integrate network management, point and click at edge of network. Network management in June for CoreDirector. Then later in year software will integrate with K2 for Network management.

28. Didn't get analyst.....doing very well in North America. Should be more balanced in 2002. Looking for Asia growth in future. (Personally, it sounds, as though international was disappointing....those are my words). Cost analysis with carriers in all optical are proving to challenging right now, but these are early days.

29. Morgan Stanley.....not seeing lots of pricing pressure on OC-192, believes that CIENA offers a robust OC-192 system, hence pricing is stronger than competition. OC-192 components are showing deflated prices, which helps margins.

30. Bank of America.......most of Europe is SDH. CoreDirector has full SDH compatibility and integration. Large market opportunity, hasn't hit the market, has infrastructure in place in Europe and would like to leverage off that.

31. WIT Soundview......high channel count landscape hasn't changed much. Nortel is talking about open architecture and high channel count, yet, we aren't seeing shipping yet. Outside of Nortel, not allot of competitors, perhaps to a lesser degree Alcatel (hinted seeing them in a "larger account" of course that is Sprint...again, my words.)... Customer acceptance for CoreDirector is 3 to 8 weeks (sometimes a little longer).

32. Lehman Brothers....Dynegy is PanEuropean substantial transport build. Finished Goods is about 122 million, very consistent with first quarter. Vendor financing landscape hasn't changed much. Perhaps seeing less pressure of vendor financing due to environment. Vendor financing is not a selling point by CIENA.

33. Didn't get analyst.....asked about Tellabs competition with product 6700. CIENA said Tellabs well entrenched with RBOC's , but not seeing as a major player right now. Cross Connect and ADM replacements with K2 integration and going further to edge of Network becomes very valuable. Push outs occurred since end of quarter and through today nothing has changed.

34...Ambro.....gross margins for 4th quarter should be higher than 3rd quarter, perhaps due to higher volumes of Cyras K2. Value of CoreDirector and K2 integration is valuable worldwide. Where is high channel count competition expected to come from? They just don't know since they are not seeing any evidence of Nortel and Alcatels high channel count claims. CIENA stated that if pricing was not economical they would turn down long haul opportunities.

35...DBAB , Raj Srikanth(my favorite).... capability of CoreDirector and scaling will meet all needs of customers. K2 is targeted at financially healthy customers, not looking for Clecs, compared Cerent (CSCO) with different customer base.

36. WR Hambrecht.....CIENA will emphasize complete offering ....Level 3 and Sprint are taking multiple products. Majority of major customers are taking multiple products. Most of large customers want to limit vendors. CIENA is becoming a top 3 strategic providers. Less competition from point providers. No need to sustain relationship from weaker supplier. Less about pricing more about offering solutions that work. CIENA offers best of breed solutions, gains opportunity because of base to show these products.

37. Tom Weisel.....newer items of 10G components are coming down in price. They look to work for vendor relationships in riding this pricing situation of components.

38. McDonald investments.....asked about Qwest, number of cities, how is deployment working. CIENA will not comment on detail of Qwests architecture. Indicated that Qwest uses multivendors on all optical deliveries.

39. Merrill Lynch (Michael Chin)...CIENA wont comment if both 10 % customers will end up as greater than 50 % for F2001. Chin indicated that CIENA goal was to reduce reliance on customer concentration.

40. Missed analyst......3 discreet component parts of metro space, which CIENA does via CoreDirector, CI and K2. This gives the complete portfolio. ONI is gaining share in metro; yet, integration and customer base is much larger at CIENA. Focus by CIENA is only looking at tier 1. Asked if Sprint has added second source of transport. CIENA said, "ask Sprint ".

41. Seth Spaulding , Epoch Partners.... asked about long term supply agreements and if so are they being renegotiated. CIENA explains that they aren't concerned with lockins because they have great vendor relationships. (My words, looks like CIENA jumped over question and would not give answer).

42. Dressdner......TyCom will be a revenue generator in Q3 and Q4. Visibility was asked about. CIENA claims they maintained guidance moving forward. Visibility for Q3 and Q4 is not as good as it has been, but good enough to reiterate the 95 - 105 % growth going forward.

43...missed analyst....asked about other assets on balance sheet. Warranty costs and spare inventory. (hmmm, need to keep eye on this, 10Q might tell). These spare parts are not available for sale, hence not included in inventory.


glenda 12/4/2012 | 8:25:01 PM
re: Ciena Struts Its Stuff What is it that Ciena's got that no one else in this space seems to have?
Scott Raynovich 12/4/2012 | 8:25:00 PM
re: Ciena Struts Its Stuff I asked that question in an interview after the conference call. Their answer seemed to be: "A product that works."
hippo 12/4/2012 | 8:24:59 PM
re: Ciena Struts Its Stuff just curious...

I'd think it is a move that's similar to what Andy Grove did in Intel few years ago; and Gates did in MS last year.
rredfield 12/4/2012 | 8:24:57 PM
re: Ciena Struts Its Stuff >>Gross margins for the quarter rose to 46.5 percent, up from 45.6 percent in the first quarter. Ciena officials said it is possible that number could fall as much as one percent in the next quarter because of pricing pressure from competitors<<

gross margins are 45.6 % not 46.5 % (193887/425396).

Nice article though !!!! good stuff !!!
Scott Raynovich 12/4/2012 | 8:24:57 PM
re: Ciena Struts Its Stuff I'm working on a story on this. Will be up either late today or early tomorrow.
cessna 12/4/2012 | 8:24:56 PM
re: Ciena Struts Its Stuff Earnings rocked - especially in this environment. Though it seems like Ciena has ceded the metro dwdm market to ONI...metro revenue were flat sequentially - as they were the pervious quarter and accounted for less than 10% of revenue... Are they giving up on the Metro DWDM transport market altogether? Given the revenue ramp of ONI - I would think they would want to be a player.

any comments?
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