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Actress Amanda Seales rallies a crowd of protesters outside the FCC.
Actress Amanda Seales rallies a crowd of protesters outside the FCC.

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Phil_Britt 1/3/2018 | 4:34:35 PM
Re: Not dead yet The two political parties have moved so far apart (decades ago the complaint was they were too similar), there needs to be some semblance of balance so that there aren't wholesale rule changes every time the political timeds shift.
kq4ym 1/3/2018 | 4:27:36 PM
Re: Not dead yet It may very well be that after the courts have listened to argument on this one, there will be some modification  if one side makes complelling arugments, but that does seem unlikely at this time. But, who know what changes may take place in coming years if political loyalties change over time.
Duh! 12/19/2017 | 10:54:25 AM
Re: Not dead yet Joe Sanganelli - I was hoping you'd join the conversation. Perhaps you can shed some light.

Section 706 of the Administrative Procedures Act commands the court to set aside an agency action that is "arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion... short of statutory right... without observance of procedure required by law... unwarranted by the facts to the extent that the facts are subject to trial de novo by the reviewing court."

In my layman's understanding: an agency reverses itself, 3-2 along partisan lines, three years after a proceeding. The previous Order was upheld by the court. There is no real evidence that the facts have changed. The NPRM and the Order are politically charged. 22 Million public comments are dismissed. Comments from widely acknowledged experts, demonstrating that the NPRM is based on fundamental misunderstandings of the subject matter,  are dismisssed. The pretext of the reversal is based on two highly biased studies that are contradicted by the balance of the record. Comments debunking those studies are dismissed. The record is tainted by fraudulent comments that the agency refuses to investigate. The agency refuses to provide public records relevant to the proceeding, and refuses to place them in the record. No public hearings are held, in defiance of custom if not law. The Order, arguably, abrogates the responsibilites delegated to the agency by law. The Order preempts state laws and deprives the states of enforcement powers. The Chairman of the agency attempts in bizarre fashion to discredit critics in the court of public opinion. In a performance that he knows is likely to become public, he makes light of allegations that he is unduly influenced by a party to the proceeding.

Based on all of that:  am I wrong to doubt that the court can uphold this Order? What am I missing?
Phil_Britt 12/18/2017 | 9:37:51 PM
Re: Not dead yet Thought Merrill was more centrist. Gorsuch for Scalia probably not much of a difference, as you say. But it does seem that the right is moving much further right.
Joe Stanganelli 12/18/2017 | 9:30:52 PM
Re: Not dead yet Who's "they"? Roberts was from Bush 43 and a pretty moderate choice for a "conservative" justice. And the ACA decision was not the only thing he voted with the liberal wing on -- just, arguably, the most famous case.

Or do you just mean presently? Extreme or not, from a Republican president's standpoint, the choice of Gorsuch to replace Scalia is actually quite apt because Gorsuch's jurisprudence -- both in philosophy and in style -- is probably the closest among high-profile US judges and other legal academians. If you're a Republican/conservative president, Gorsuch is really the obvious choice, it seems to me.
Joe Stanganelli 12/18/2017 | 9:22:39 PM
Re: Not dead yet @daniel: I'm really struggling to see the legal argument that would compel the FCC to reverse itself here. The only leg liberal state AGs have to stand on here as far as I can tell (of course, I fully grant that I may be missing something because I have not followed this entirely closely) is the issue of fake comments. This is just silliness, however. As with just about every issue on which the public comments, I suspect, the Chairman has pointed out that it was the substance of comments and the legal issues they pointed out that had more to do with anything.

(And it's not like there weren't fake comments when Title-II regulation went into effect two years ago.)

Practically speaking, there's little to nothing a regulatory body can do to prevent fake and duplicate comments. It just so happens that this was an issue that lent itself particularly well to stirring them up and attracting them. Yes, federal systems should be secure, but this is a red herring. Net-neutrality proponents didn't get what they want and they are doing everything they can to stall or interfere with the rollback of the 2015 Order. I don't blame them for it, but it's still tax-dollar-wasting political silliness.

Even if the lawsuit winds up being successful, the Pai FCC will still eventually manage to keep broadband providers categorized under Title I or otherwise not-so-heavily regulated. There's always a way.

As for the state AGs threatening to sue, it's mere political posturing to take advantage of the electorate's whims. A lawyer colleague of mine with whom I once spoke on a panel put it thusly: "'AG' doesn't stand for 'Attorney General'; it stands for aspiring 'Aspiring Governor'."
Phil_Britt 12/18/2017 | 9:10:54 PM
Re: Not dead yet To be honest, I was shocked by the Roberts decision. But it seems that they are doing everything they can to stay away from nominees the least bit centrist.

Joe Stanganelli 12/18/2017 | 9:09:03 PM
Re: Not dead yet @Phil: True, but this is the theory behind lifetime appointments -- that, once appointed, executive-appointed members of the judiciary need not fear retaliation or other action one way or the other on the part of the executive.

Harry Blackmun is a perfect example of this. Blackmun was a Nixon appointee to the SCOTUS. Blackmun went on to author the Roe v. Wade decision -- to the chagrin of many a Republican.

Another good SCOTUS example who is more recent is David Souter. Souter was a Bush 41 appointee -- and was planted pretty very firmly in the liberal wing of the court throughout his tenure.

Yet more recent? John Roberts was appointed as our current Chief Justice of the Supreme Court by Bush 43. Roberts wound up being the last-minute switch vote that protected key provisions of Obamacare from being struck down as unconstitutional.

Of course, the better justices switch to "other side" here and there. Even Scalia, who had a reputation as a hardline conservative justice, was an equally hardline protector of accused suspect's 4th-, 5th-, and 6th Amendment rights -- something that tough-on-crime all-the-way conservatives may not be particularly fond of.
Joe Stanganelli 12/18/2017 | 9:00:19 PM
Re: Not dead yet > The lawyers get more money.

This is the case with most major regulatory overhauls -- one way or the other.

Well, some lawyers... My practice has yet to see any windfall from this. ;)
Phil_Britt 12/18/2017 | 12:34:51 PM
Re: Not dead yet The checks and balances aren't what they once were. Divided government works best.
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