SlideshowEricsson Hypes 5G After Telcos Slam 5G Hype

Give Me More Efficiency
Johan Wibergh, Vodafone's chief technology officer, complains about 5G hype at a recent Huawei event in London.
Johan Wibergh, Vodafone's chief technology officer, complains about 5G hype at a recent Huawei event in London.

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kq4ym 12/11/2017 | 1:08:45 PM
Re: Damned if you do ... I would suppose "sour grapes" is only to be expected when talking about competition and where we feel we're behind the curve, but besides getting a bit of press, it's not always good business to let those type of comments flow too freely I would think
Principa74412 11/30/2017 | 4:54:00 AM
NR performance and efficiency is much better than LTE I simply like to specify some facts for the arguments / points the author wrote. NR has 12-20% for FDD and 10-35% for TDD higher peak spectral efficiency than LTE and full utilisation requires NR optimised radio. Up to 3x cell edge rates at low load on a 2/4Tx baseline. E.g. 97 vs 35 NR has increased energy efficiency reaching 85% power savings compared to 20% for LTE NR will support 40Mhz carrier where for carrier aggregation scenario will have high efficiency than LTE Any comments are most welcome Thanks Peter ke
SeniorTe76617 11/29/2017 | 1:16:47 PM
Who ever runs fast wins the race Ericsson is following perfect strategy.

One should not forget huaweii did something similar demonstrating 4G speeds in a magelev train, while hardly people use 4G speeds today what huaweii demonstrated. So whats wrong with Ericsson doing similar ?

5G gives advantage at the operator level first time where new NFV/etc are part of standards itself. So far in 4G it was in imaginations than being part of standards.

Its also possible lot of operators or device manufacturers have not recovered their investments in 4G, so reluctance to switch is natural but inevitable.

What does a end-user gain in using Windows10 over Windows7 ? Didn't we migrate ?

4G has not fully picked up especially VoLTE, so it makes every sense for 3G->5G migration directly. 

Irrespective of what a CEO or CTO has objection to, market will be bent to switch. All it needs is one Tier-1 operator to switch others will follow for fear of competition of being left behind.

Last but not lease 5G even if its relevant few years later than immediate, is natural culmination of diverse technologies tech world is talking about (NFV/IoT/driver less cars and other BS).




iainmorris 11/28/2017 | 3:11:59 PM
Re: Damned if you do ... It's happy with progress on 5G new radio standardization. It just doesn't think it's a massive game changer. And it's evidently not happy about the progress in some other areas.
mendyk 11/28/2017 | 2:53:00 PM
Re: Damned if you do ... So on the one hand, DT is happy (or as happy as DT can get) with the progress made in 5G radio standardization, and on the other hand it doesn't think the radio part is all that exciting? I wonder if part of the problem here is that some telcos are feeling the heat from out-of-market operators (i.e., those in Asia) that have set very ambitious timetables for 5G. So maybe it's not vendor hype that is the problem for them.
iainmorris 11/28/2017 | 2:25:38 PM
Re: Damned if you do ... It's the new radio side of 5G that Deutsche Telekom has described as "evolutionary." I sense other telcos share that view. Enrico Blanco, Telefonica's CTO, hinted that he felt this way in Feburary this year - that new radio developments were not the most important thing about 5G. I can't imagine most CTOs are all that excited about a new radio technology.  
mendyk 11/28/2017 | 2:09:24 PM
Re: Damned if you do ... It's not a question of whether telcos will migrate to 5G -- of course they will. But in this report, you note that DT sees 5G as "evolutionary" -- which is damning by not even faint praise, no? It sounds like the telcos you are talking to already see 5G as an albatross.
Joe Stanganelli 11/28/2017 | 1:59:49 PM
Efficiency doesn't sell like futurism Ericsson's been getting into the forecasting business, and futurism sells.

It's not hard to blame them for not getting to deep into efficiency when there's data to show that executives are more likely to be persuaded into digital transformation by futuristic promises of potential for new revenue streams than by hard numbers demonstrating cost savings.
danielcawrey 11/28/2017 | 1:55:08 PM
Re: Damned if you do ... I think concerns about technology readiness are warranted. 

Yes, there are places where the technology gap is not so wide. But there are vast areas where the digital divide does indeed exist. 
iainmorris 11/28/2017 | 1:52:30 PM
Re: Damned if you do ... I don't recall writing anywhere, and certainly not in this story, that telcos aren't going to invest in 5G if it is only about efficiency. Clearly, though, the investment case is harder to make if there is no (or not much) revenue upside (this is one reason Northstream thinks 5G will be deployed relatively slowly, and the reasoning is sound). It is even harder to make when there is widespread skepticism about the revenue upside and very little discussion of the efficiency benefits. 
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