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Ciena's K2: What Problems?

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Ciena Corp. (Nasdaq: CIEN) scored quite a coup when it acquired Lightera at the beginning of the optical boom, giving it what turned out to be a market leader -- the CoreDirector grooming switch.

The opposite could be said of its $1.1 billion acquisition of Cyras in March 2001 (see Ciena Completes Cyras Purchase). Cyras’s add/drop mux -- now called the MetroDirector K2 -- came out of the same stable as Cisco Systems Inc.'s (Nasdaq: CSCO) Cerent box, the ONS 15454, and was supposed to be better (see Cyras: The Next Cerent? ). So far, however, it hasn't lived up to its early promise.

Industry sources have long said the K2 wasn't in working order when Ciena bought it and that the company has had to work long and hard to get it out the door. Others say it's still a dud. The latest rumor? Ciena may kill development of the K2 altogether. Separate speculation that Ciena may announce a layoff this week has only added grist to the K2 mill.

Ciena itself denies the rumors.

"That's definitely not true. We are not capping development on the K2," says Denny Bilter, senior director of marketing at Ciena. "We are committed to all of our product lines." As for the layoff rumor, he says that's speculation from Wall Street analysts.

Those analysts continue to bubble with K2 questions. During Ciena's last quarterly report, some asked whether the product's been able to gain any traction with the crucial U.S. RBOC market, part of Ciena's current focus on incumbents worldwide (see Ciena Follows the Incumbents).

The answer appears to be a resounding no. "We haven't seen any evidence of traction for the K2 in the RBOC market," says analyst Simon Leopold of Merrill Lynch & Co. Inc.

Since completion of the Cyras acquisition in March 2001, Ciena has publicly announced four wins for the K2. Michael Howard, principal analyst and cofounder of research firm Infonetics Research Inc., thinks Ciena's garnered "low tens of millions" in revenue for the K2 since it started shipping three quarters ago. (Ciena won't release specific shipment figures, so numbers can't be verified.)

The most recent and widely publicized K2 win was a deal with Sprint Corp. (NYSE: FON) announced this past June (see Ciena Fleshes Out Sprint Deal). At the time, Sprint sources said the carrier was using the K2 in five domestic locations linked to international data traffic.

But analysts say the Sprint win is lackluster because of the carrier's primary commitment to the ONS 15454 from Cisco. "Sprint's publicly committed itself to Cisco as its main supplier," says Michael Howard. "I don't think this was a big win for Ciena."

Ciena's only other announced K2 deployment stateside is at Oklahoma-based alternative transport provider AFN Communications LLC (see Ciena to Supply AFN). That carrier has based its network on Ciena gear and is using the K2, but at press time couldn't provide information as to the number of platforms installed.

In June 2001, Ciena announced a sale involving the K2 to a joint venture in China called CEC-IDN Telecom Limited or Beijing IDN (see Ciena Enters China). That was a primarily a distribution deal, though, as was clarified in February 2002, when Ciena struck a joint manufacturing and R&D agreement with CEC-IDN for the CoreDirector and K2 in China (see Ciena Looks to China).

Ciena's other announced K2 win is a deal with Tokyo's eAccess Ltd., announced in November 2001. That arrangement was described by Ciena as a deployment of "more than 100 units" for a Tokyo Sonet ring.

And there you have it -- four announced wins that don't include an RBOC, which some say isn't good news, despite claims of opportunities abroad. "Saying that the best opportunity for this product is international is a euphemism for saying it's not doing anything in North America," says Merrill Lynch's Leopold.

Analysts are divided over the source of the K2 problem. Ciena has fielded comments about the box's alleged technological drawbacks. "The K2 has never performed as it was advertised, the grooming ASICs haven't worked," writes one industry source, who asked not to be named, in an email last week.

Ciena says it's never heard complaints about the K2 ASICs.

Others say the timing of the product's release was problematic. "When you build a product early, you risk others becoming superior," says Frank Dzubeck, president of consultancy Communications Network Architects (no Website). The K2, developed early and delayed in its release, fits the bill.

But Dzubeck also says RBOCs aren't buying. "They're effectively starving an industry in order to gain regulatory relief," Dzubeck says.

Market conditions exacerbate the problem. Fujitsu Ltd. (KLS: FUJI.KL), Lucent Technologies Inc. (NYSE: LU), and Nortel Networks Corp. (NYSE/Toronto: NT) have earmarked the metro space as crucial to their own survival. That's made it tougher than ever to get into any carrier's door, even ones who are buying. A product without significant differentiators is apt to be quickly passed over.

Many say they wouldn't be surprised if development on the K2 is stanched or redirected, regardless of the underlying reasons. "The K2's not stellar," says Mark Lutkowitz of Communications Industry Researchers Inc. (CIR). "It was always a 'me too' kind of product. Nothing differentiates it. Ciena needs to get its burn rate down and focus on products that will do the most for them."

It's time Ciena did some soul-searching, Lutkowitz says. "They can't afford to be in denial on this." Ciena's dominance in the long-haul space isn't guaranteed, he asserts, and the company could be better off putting its development dollars to work where it's got a solid market position, as it has with its CoreDirector core switch.

Ultimately, some have indicated that the K2 may get buried in integration with the products Ciena acquired in its merger with ONI Systems earlier this year (see Ciena to Merge, Shrink). Ciena acknowledges its commitment to that integration project.

At least one observer thinks Ciena will take the integration route out of K2 complications. "If they do close down the K2 development lab, I expect that they will announce it as a consolidation of facilities with ONI to avoid embarrassment," writes Doug Green, principal of the Bradam Group consultancy, in an email.

He says Ciena's struggling with an image problem on two counts when it comes to metro DWDM gear. First, the company's earmarked the K2 for revenue growth. Second, it would send out a "very bad message [to discontinue the K2], i.e. that they can't seem to find their way in the metro market, the only segment where anyone is spending at all," Green writes. A pre-Cyras acquisition, Omnia Communications, failed to pan out as planned, he notes; and when Ciena's own DWDM ring project was canceled, the company bought ONI Systems -- a move that is still being debated.

— Mary Jander, Senior Editor, Light Reading
www.lightreading.com

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alexchilton
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alexchilton,
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12/4/2012 | 9:45:44 PM
re: Ciena's K2: What Problems?
From the original press: "This move was driven by customer demand," said Gary Smith, Ciena's President and Chief Operating Officer. He described the K2 product as "mature" and "carrier class," saying those were major factors in the decision."

Carrier Class was suspect, Mature was unbelievable. Nothing against Cyras (hopefully money was made), there were better choices for Ethernet over SONET available in the stable back then; some survive today. Too bad for all.

Alex.
optiuncle
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optiuncle,
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12/4/2012 | 9:45:41 PM
re: Ciena's K2: What Problems?
Wonder what Alnoor Shivji (CEO of Cyras at time of acquisition) has to say about this? Where is he now BTW?

Last news I heard was that he was CEO of Redwave Networks but that shut down quite a few months back.
puddnhead_wilson
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puddnhead_wilson,
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12/4/2012 | 9:45:40 PM
re: Ciena's K2: What Problems?
thanks. I'm kinda wondering though, LR, why still no article on Alcatel cuts? that was announced five hours ago now, and is very relevant to the future of the entire industry.
Bleek_Times
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Bleek_Times,
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12/4/2012 | 9:45:39 PM
re: Ciena's K2: What Problems?
--from a reliable insider --
The K2 was well on the way to becoming a solid/profitable product. Unfortunately, the Ciena management was uncomfortable with the Cyras management, not for technical or leadership reasons, but ecause they did not fit into the "old boy" mold that makes up current management (admittedly this part is speculation). Long story short, Ciena in its infinite wisdom replaced management and the team lost direction, focus, talent, and finally product.
lilgatsby
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lilgatsby,
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12/4/2012 | 9:45:37 PM
re: Ciena's K2: What Problems?
K2 may not have the same traction that CoreDirector or CoreStream have, but it is hard to dominate EVERY segment of the industry. BTW, this product has the same number of buying customers as CORV has as an entire company. Think about it, sport.

Cerent was purchased along with a nice package of existing customers which CSCO has grown. Cyras did not have that same luxury. I'm not sure Siara had the same Cerent customer base at sale time, but it did have a head start on Cyras. Timing is important and K2 was last to market of the three, so it stands to reason they are not ahead of either RBK or CSCO in this area.

Would you propose rolling over since the #1 position is taken by Cisco? Sort of like CSCO deciding not to release the 15600 because CIEN owns the market. This is a market CIENA is positioned well for with the ONI line to aggregate K2s. Maybe I'm wrong, but time will tell.

lg
puddnhead_wilson
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puddnhead_wilson,
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12/4/2012 | 9:45:36 PM
re: Ciena's K2: What Problems?
>--from a reliable insider --
The K2 was well on the way to becoming a solid/profitable product. Unfortunately, the Ciena management was uncomfortable with the Cyras management, not for technical or leadership reasons, but ecause they did not fit into the "old boy" mold that makes up current management (admittedly this part is speculation). Long story short, Ciena in its infinite wisdom replaced management and the team lost direction, focus, talent, and finally product.

The main problem with this explanation is that this 'great" Cyras managment claimed the product was finished when Cina bought them. So even if they were so good as you seem to think, they must be liars because there should have littel left to be done (and for Cinea to screw up).

No, sorry, not buying it.
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SiO2,
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12/4/2012 | 9:45:33 PM
re: Ciena's K2: What Problems?
lilgatsby writes:

> Timing is important and K2 was
> last to market of the three, so
> it stands to reason they are not
> ahead of either RBK or CSCO in
> this area.

given that cerrent, siara, and cyras
all spun out of fiberlane at roughly
the same time, who does cyras have
to blame for bringing a deficient
product to market late?

> This is a market CIENA is positioned
> well for with the ONI line to aggregate
> K2s. Maybe I'm wrong, but time will tell.

ciena acquired the K2 in an attempt to shore
up their market position at ATT. when ATT
threw the K2 out of its lab in lieu of the
cerrent box, it made things difficult to
sneak this pig past the ops folks at other
tier-1 providers. that ciena is still shopping
for a VT-level cross-connect with high-density
low-speed interfaces is pretty much all you
need to know in assessing the future of the
K2 in the ciena product line.

SiO2






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67GT500,
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12/4/2012 | 9:45:33 PM
re: Ciena's K2: What Problems?
What BS
Bleek_Times
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Bleek_Times,
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12/4/2012 | 9:45:32 PM
re: Ciena's K2: What Problems?
Such an insightful response
lilgatsby
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lilgatsby,
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12/4/2012 | 9:45:32 PM
re: Ciena's K2: What Problems?
SiO2 -
Late to market? I don't have an answer to this, I could speculate that they were trying to make improvements over the Cerent before release like shippable OC-192, Gig-E bridging, true ATM switch fabric, arbitrary concatenation, double the Cerent VT1.5 support, over twice as many wavelengths and higher density on DS-1, DS-3, OC-3, OC-12 and Gig-E cards...but that would be my own speculation. The late to market argument is poor. If you're not first or second, then you're late? Please...

And, as far as your ATT fable...well you can believe whatever you want, sport. As long as we're taking this road, why don't you name for me the accounts out of the 600 or so that use the Cerent that were NOT financed by Cisco Capital or any other Cisco backed house? You really want to talk about being first market or BUYING first to market...

lg
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