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Vivato's Two-Way AP Play

Wireless LAN startup Vivato Inc. announced this week that it plans to start shipping a dual-function access point in November. The device works either as an autonomous standalone device or – when used in combination with Vivato's existing switch – to plug 802.11 coverage gaps.

Vivato first showed off its 802.11b (11 Mbit/s over 2.4GHz) "Bridge/Router" box last April (see Vivato Bridges, Routes 802.11). The firm says that it is now engaged in "extensive" beta testing of the product – in both indoor and outdoor settings – before shipping (see Vivato Details Bridge/Router). The Bridge/Router contains two 802.11b radios rated at 200 mW. The company claims that the box will have twice the range of standard 802.11b products when used as a standalone AP, which would give it a maximum range of around 200 meters.

The Bridge/Router can also be used to plug possible radio coverage holes when using the original Vivato switch in enterprise implementations, covering the "RF gaps that result from physical barriers [concrete walls, thick glass, etc.] within the environment" (see Vivato Plans Ambitious WLAN). In these situations, one radio in the box works as an access point, while the other sends data wirelessly back to the switch. Vivato has already developed a similar concept for its outdoor switches (see Hotspots of the Future).

Vivato is now working on its second-generation switch product, which will be built around a new 802.11g (54 Mbit/s over 2.4GHz) chipset. The introduction of the Bridge/Router product follows a management shakeup and a round of layoffs at the startup (see Vivato: Shaken & Stirred Up and Vivato CEO Steps Down).

— Dan Jones, Senior Editor, Unstrung

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lrmobile_pan 12/4/2012 | 11:19:25 PM
re: Vivato's Two-Way AP Play Don't get too excited, it's just a repackaging.
This box has been around for a while(Senao).

Marketed as a product, but just a facade to cover the deficiencies of the Vivato Switch I'd suspect. Still not impressed Vivato!

lrmobile_pan 12/4/2012 | 11:19:00 PM
re: Vivato's Two-Way AP Play Vivato had another big RIF today!
Can someone out there verify.

ucanbeamexicana2 12/4/2012 | 11:18:58 PM
re: Vivato's Two-Way AP Play It's True!
30 percent RIF and pay cuts for the remaining!

Bad management!!!
They made very bad decisions from the
start, Mis-managed their money, and
created a incredible burn rate.

Of course the engineers and support teams
who worked their asses off doing what
they were told to do are the ones
taking the brunt of this.

The company is run by a bunch of neophytes!
The board needs to clean house(from the top!)

I hope no one was shocked by this event. When
a company gets into the situation that Vivato is
in, it becomes a game of deceit. Vivato has resorted to underhanded schemes to achieve
an unreachable objective, and they got caught!
Their stratagem backfired and this is a result.

Don't be surprised, there's more to come!

I can tell you this. If the job climate was
better, Vivato wouldn't have any engineers
left. They would of skedaddled months ago.


cugat 12/4/2012 | 11:18:54 PM
re: Vivato's Two-Way AP Play Yep, 22 people according to the Spokane paper. It went on to say

"The reorganization is part of board-approved efforts to put higher emphasis on sales of the company's key products -- indoor and outdoor broadband wireless "switches" that deliver network data across a wide area."

So, lay off all the people that developed the product to emphasize sales...hmmm?

Honda_Elise 12/4/2012 | 11:18:52 PM
re: Vivato's Two-Way AP Play
Here's the full article from the Spokesman-Review:

Saturday, October 25, 2003

Vivato to lay off 22 workers

Vivato Inc., a wireless technology startup, has laid off 22 employees in its San Francisco and Spokane offices, the company said Friday.

About two-thirds of the jobs were based in Spokane, said a company spokesman. Some of those jobs eliminated in Spokane were product engineers, said Don Stalter, interim CEO at Vivato.

The company now has about 65 Spokane jobs, the center of its engineering and product development operation. The San Francisco office, formerly with 15 workers, will be reduced to a handful, Stalter said.

The reorganization is part of board-approved efforts to put higher emphasis on sales of the company's key products -- indoor and outdoor broadband wireless "switches" that deliver network data across a wide area.

Vivato was started in late 2000 in Spokane. To raise capital the company made San Francisco its headquarters.

Four weeks ago, Stalter was asked by board members to take over as interim chief executive. He replaced Ken Biba, who was one of the company's founders.


There's not much worse for employee morale than
the drip-drip-drip of layoffs as the VCs tighten
the pursestrings. I just hope that the engineers
can get the new products done quick enough.
ucanbeamexicana2 12/4/2012 | 11:18:46 PM
re: Vivato's Two-Way AP Play I don't think that article is 100% correct.
Biba was not one of the original "3" founders.
He came on a later. Guess that makes
him a "flounder" instead :-p

Astrofan 12/4/2012 | 11:18:44 PM
re: Vivato's Two-Way AP Play he wasn't one of the original 3, but he was the 4th. the only way he'd agree to take the gig was if they made him a founder too.
wap545 12/4/2012 | 11:18:27 PM
re: Vivato's Two-Way AP Play This is a one of the finest WLAN technology that has hit this apce in 2 years. We have had extensive experience in this space (Service Provider) and have tested both their Outdoor and new Wireless Bridge/ROuter and when combined they represent a totaly Disruptive technology in this WLAN Space.
All the development efforts and competition in Smart vs Dump AP is really missing the point. If you take a new Smart Antennas (In this case a Phase Array-Beam Steering system) and develop it so you can install/upgrade the radios (as new 802.11 and 802.16 Standards evolve)you have a winner. You have create a tool to address what we are calling Virtual HotSpots throughout a Market (Geography)without any AP and allow users to connect any where in a sector with their own (Off the shelf-Circuit City)PCMCIA cards in Laptops and the emerging PDA/Phones.

We finally have a product we can build a real Broadband Wireless business around (Cost Effective). Now let's hope they can get stable.

Wifi-Willie 12/4/2012 | 11:18:21 PM
re: Vivato's Two-Way AP Play Definitly a facade to cover up the lack of coverage of the wifi switch. 13K is way to much for their AP/wifi switch on steriods or so they want you to think.

lrmobile_pan 12/4/2012 | 11:17:38 PM
re: Vivato's Two-Way AP Play Jim wake up and smell the coffee man!
It was a good science project, but 95+% of
all wireless LAN (WLAN) istallations,(Guess
WIFI has a bad wrap) don't need Range! So
you go boy, go target that 5% of the market.
I'll take my chances on someone else.
Vivato's clock is ticking!

I'm not convinced either that
the Phased Array technology is as safe as
you guys state. I hope your guys aren't falsifying documentation in that area either.


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