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Comcast Launches 4K Streaming Service

Following closely in DirecTV's footsteps, Comcast has become the second major US pay-TV provider to start offering Ultra HD (UHD) programming to its subscribers.

Comcast, the biggest pay-TV operator in the US with nearly 22.4 million video customers, has launched a 4K streaming app that will enable subscribers to watch select TV shows in the UHD format on an on-demand basis via the Internet. The MSO's Xfinity TV subscribers can download the new 4K app, known as Xfinity in UHD, for free using their standard authentication credentials.

Comcast Corp. (Nasdaq: CMCSA, CMCSK), which set a year-end deadline for launching the streaming service when it announced its 4K plans at CES last January, is initially making the new Xfinity app available to customers with 2014 Ultra HD sets from Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. (Korea: SEC) under a deal it struck earlier with the leading consumer electronics manufacturer. But the MSO will undoubtedly broaden its reach to other CE makers over time. (See Gentlemen, Start Your 4K Engines.)

Right off the bat, Comcast is offering full seasons from select TV shows from its NBCUNiversal unit's NBC and USA networks. Specifically, it's debuting with episodes from NBC's Chicago Fire and USA's Covert Affairs, with NBC's Parks and Recreation series slated to follow in February. Plans call for adding other shows and networks over time as Comcast builds up its UHD programming library.

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By offering the 4K streaming service for no extra charge to its customers, Comcast is taking a different tack than DirecTV Group Inc. (NYSE: DTV), its huge satellite TV rival. DirecTV, which ranks second only to Comcast in its video sub count, introduced its 4K streaming service last month by offering about 30 movie titles on a pay-per-view basis. Customers must pay up to $10 a title to watch the movies on-demand.

Besides delivering Xfinity in UHD to Sansung TV viewers, Comcast said it will offer the 4K streaming service to portable devices through its Xfinity TV Go app sometime next year. The MSO also intends to introduce an advanced new X1 set-top box that supports 4K video in 2015.

— Alan Breznick, Cable/Video Practice Leader, Light Reading

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KBode 12/19/2014 | 7:32:33 AM
Dipping a toe in... Quite a tepid toe DirecTV and Comcast are dipping into 4K, given it's only being made available on some TV sets. I'd love to see how much (if they're getting paid at all) that exclusive arrangement cost Samsung?

Pretty clear though companies are nervous about the stumble that was 3DTV.
craigleddy 12/19/2014 | 9:15:46 AM
Blurred lines Excuse my skepticism, but is delivering network TV shows through IP streaming to a UHD smart TV going to deliver a true 4K UHD experience? I'm sure it will look great but this reminds me of when distributors (yea you DirectTV) were peddling HDTV content that was barely HD. 

Maybe one of you video experts out there can clarify the situation?    
jbtombes 12/19/2014 | 10:36:38 AM
Re: Blurred lines no video expert here... but at least on the OTT side, Netflix and Amazon surely have some encoding geeks who have prepped a service (albeit limited) designed to satisfy the (admittedly lower than cable TV sub) expectations. There, enough qualifications? Anyway, I'd say that this revolution is likely to be streamed to the computer monitor first, rather than televised, so to speak.
sridhar_ramesh 12/19/2014 | 12:15:02 PM
Re: Blurred lines Internet streaming seems to have little to do with UHD quality.

Logistically, it seems the simplest way for cable operators to deliver the bit-rate for 4K video, since a channel bonding scheme has not been defined for linear QAM video.

(Each QAM channel delivers 38 Mbps & 4K video might need more than that).

DOCSIS 3.0, on the other hand, does feature channel bonding and bit rates in excess of 100 Mbps.
kq4ym 12/19/2014 | 1:09:35 PM
Re: Blurred lines If Comcast can deliver on it's promises it should eclipse Directv in a very competitive market. Giving it away free vs. $10 a shot at Directv would be a big advantage. But on the other hand, it's still going to be a limited market for a while as consumer hang back from buying those very expensive TVs.
mhhf1ve 12/19/2014 | 2:32:20 PM
Can I still just get standard def in the future, please? I know eventually I'll have to upgrade my TV and get 4K capability bundled with it, but I'm still not convinced that HD is all that impressive. I see more zits and wrinkles on the nightly news anchors for the local stations... and that's not really what I want.

I'm glad 3D TVs didn't catch on... those things gave me a headache. 
jbtombes 12/19/2014 | 3:27:22 PM
Re: Can I still just get standard def in the future, please? You don't like HD? It's for sure easier on my eyes. One thing about 4k is that it could pull 3D in its wake. Easier to do passive 3D when you've got 2x as many lines. Also the detail and depth of 4k provides something like a no-glasses 3D experience. 
mhhf1ve 12/19/2014 | 3:54:36 PM
Re: Can I still just get standard def in the future, please? It's not that I *don't* like HD -- it's just that I don't really appreciate how much "better" everyone seems to say it is over SDTV. I mean, color TV vs B&W TV was a huge change. SD to HD -- meh. HD to 4K? uh, what is the point? And will there be a 4K to "whatever the heck you call the maximum resolution of the human eyeball"? Why don't we try skipping straight to the max resolution of human perception? 

4K just seems like a way to eat up more bandwidth and force people to upgrade their hardware unnecessarily... to me, at least. I don't see the compelling reason to adopt 4K from HD. 
MarkC73 12/19/2014 | 4:14:10 PM
Re: Blurred lines Encoding bandwidth rates are different than the streaming rate, most articles I've read expect the rate to be about 12-20mbps per 4K stream depending on the content that you are watching.  Content generation is also a good topic, Comcast doesn't need to pay anything extra to aquire NBC's content, or at least pay with real money, so why not give it as an add value for 'stickiness'


Also remember like HD, there's different things that people call 4K as far as resolution.
brooks7 12/20/2014 | 3:25:18 PM
Re: Can I still just get standard def in the future, please? If you watch sports, you would instantly like HDTV.  Not sure about 4K, but probably that as well.  These things don't matter much to talking heads.


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