T-Mobile to Test 5G With Nokia, Ericsson

Dan Jones
2/24/2016

T-Mobile will start 5G tests with Ericsson and Nokia in the US in the second half of this year but don't expect net-gen mobile services from the carrier until compatible handsets arrive in the 2020 timeframe.

Ericsson AB (Nasdaq: ERIC) and Nokia Corp. (NYSE: NOK) are working with T-Mobile US Inc. to set up field and lab trials on pre-5G 28GHz test systems later this year. T-Mobile said last week that it would start initial 5G trials this year. (See T-Mobile Joins 5G Trial Races With Ericsson.)

"We'll be on a direct path to 5G service once 5G consumer smartphones and standards are available in the 2020+ timeframe," T-Mobile CTO Neville Ray said in a statement Tuesday.

The CTO has been consistent in sticking to the 2020-or-beyond timeframe for commercial deployment even as Verizon Wireless started to claim it will launch initial 5G services in the US in 2017. Ray blasted that claim as "total B.S." last week. (See T-Mobile CEO Slams Verizon's 5G Claims.)

Nonetheless, of the big four US mobile carriers, only Sprint Corp. (NYSE: S) has yet to announce its 5G trial plans.

— Dan Jones, Mobile Editor, Light Reading

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TV Monitor
TV Monitor
3/7/2016 | 11:50:45 AM
Re: "STRP" stock was on fire this week...more to come...
kq4ym

Ericsson and Nokia's definition of 5G is different from FCC and Koreans.

Europeans define 5G as an IoT optimized low-power/low-latency data transmission standard serviced in traditional LTE band good for IoT and industrial use. They do have mmwave band 5G plans, but this isn't due for another 10 years.

FCC and Koreans define 5G as multi-Gbits/s bandwidth delivering high-power/low-latency data transmission standard serviced in mmWave band 28 Ghz and above scheduled to enter commercial service by 2020.

So when Ericsson and Nokia speak of 5G, this is not necessarily the same thing as what FCC is talking about.
KBode
KBode
3/7/2016 | 11:26:49 AM
Re: "STRP" stock was on fire this week...more to come...
Hopefully for everyone it doesn't follow the "maybe sometime soon" apparent scheduling surrounding VoLTE interoperability. :)
kq4ym
kq4ym
3/7/2016 | 9:34:39 AM
Re: "STRP" stock was on fire this week...more to come...
It will be interesting to see what actually happens with the time schedule. Will it be 5G in 2017 or 2020 or something inbetween. There will be lots of hype in the meantime among the competitors I'm sure.
TV Monitor
TV Monitor
2/29/2016 | 2:49:31 PM
Re: "STRP" stock was on fire this week...more to come...
Dan Jones

First English article on this apparent split in 5G camps, those that want to hold on to LTE(Ericsson, Huawei, Nokia) and develop a modified LTE variant, and those who want to start over from scratch(Samsung). The biggest surprise is the apparant conversion of NTT Docomo, which developed the original LTE, to this all new mmwave 5G camp.

http://www.investors.com/news/technology/click/verizon-vodafone-china-mobile-surface-in-different-5g-camps/

Verizon, Vodafone, China Mobile Surface in Different 5G Camps

Will Verizon Communications (VZ) and Vodafone Group, one-time partners, be on different sides in the 5G wireless standards debate?

Next-generation 5G services were a hot topic at last week's Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, Spain. Vodafone (VOD) surfaced as a surprise member of a group of wireless phone companies aiming to meld two variants of LTE (long-term evolution) technology as a path to 5G. Those companies include China Mobile (CHL), India's Bharti Airtel, South Korea's KT (KT), Japan's SoftBank (SFTBY) and Vodafone. SoftBank controls U.S.-based Sprint (S).

Verizon, on the other hand, said at the MWC that it will cooperate with Japan's NTT Docomo (DCM), KT and SK Telecom on possibly different 5G specifications.
DanJones
DanJones
2/29/2016 | 12:44:28 PM
Re: "STRP" stock was on fire this week...more to come...
There will probably be some limited city deployments in 2018-19. Real widespread deployments start in 2020 and beyond.
TV Monitor
TV Monitor
2/29/2016 | 12:29:57 PM
Re: T-Mobile chose wrong vendors
thebulk

According to Japanese articles dated 27th, SK+KT+Verizon+Docomo 5G alliance is trying to bring AT&T into the alliance. Docomo executive claims that if they could bring AT&T into the common 5G platform, then they would have enough clout to line-up vendor support and rapidly rollout the common 5G standard by 2020. What drove NTT Docomo to join this 5G alliance is unclear, because NTT Docomo was pursuing a Japanese 5G standard until recently. I guess NTT Docomo saw the writing on the wall after having tested all major vendor's 5G technologies that Samsung 5G was the only technology that could reach a commercial rollout by 2020. The denial of spectrum suitable for Japanese 5G at WRC-15 also played a part.

The world is splitting into 5G factions, the US-Japan-Korea common 28/39 Ghz 5G, the Chinese 3.5 Ghz 5G, and the European 5G. The European and the Chinese 5G could merge at later time.

There is no English article covering AT&T part yet, so you will have to settle for an older article covering this alliance.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/kt-sk-telecom-form-5g-standard-alliance-with-verizon-docomo/

KT, SK Telecom form 5G standard alliance with Verizon, Docomo

South Korean telcos KT and SK Telecom have formed a 5G standard-setting alliance with the US's Verizon and Japan's NTT Docomo to develop an aligned 5G trial specification.

The telcos announced the formation of the 5G Trial Specification Alliance (TSA) at the Mobile World Congress (MWC) in Barcelona on Monday. The alliance will help network equipment makers design 5G equipment more efficiently, and allow the wireless industry to test key technical components.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2016/02/133_198696.html

KT joins hands with global carriers for 5G standardization

The company said it has reached an agreement with NTT DoCoMo in Japan, Verizon in the U.S. and SK Telecom in Korea to establish the 5G Trial Specification Alliance during the ongoing Mobile World Congress (MWC) 2016 in Barcelona, Spain. It also stressed that it will encourage more global network equipment makers to join the alliance, accelerating the international standardization of 5G network technologies.

KT has worked with global network equipment manufacturers since June 2015 and jointly determined key technologies and parameters for designing 5G devices and system chips such as frequency and channel range, frame structure and coding schemes.

It said the PyeongChang 5G standards, which were determined in the process, have also been considered as the standard for the alliance, giving the company an advantage in leading the race for 5G technology development.
KBode
KBode
2/29/2016 | 8:19:50 AM
Re: "STRP" stock was on fire this week...more to come...
So 2020 seems to be the general consensus for when we ACTUALLY see anything close to real deployment. Do you think that's generally accurate?
thebulk
thebulk
2/29/2016 | 6:23:08 AM
Re: T-Mobile tests
@Joe, LoL
thebulk
thebulk
2/29/2016 | 6:22:49 AM
Re: T-Mobile chose wrong vendors
That 5G roaming plan would be amazing for travel. 
thebulk
thebulk
2/29/2016 | 6:02:34 AM
Re: T-Mobile chose wrong vendors
While it does seem Samsung is on top of the game, I think its still to early to know if anyone else will work out the kinks in their tech and overcome. 
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