x
5G

5G Faces Key Decisions in 2016

Heavy Reading's Gabriel Brown says the wireless industry needs to come to consensus on some key decisions regarding 5G in 2016. These include its air interface, frame structure and numerology, and the choices made will have an impact for decades to come.

Page 1 / 3   >   >>
DanJones 1/7/2016 | 10:06:18 AM
Re: Gabriel Brown is wrong, Phase 1 is dead-on-arrival Dan Brown? Did we crack the DaVinci Code now?
TV Monitor 1/6/2016 | 10:19:28 PM
Re: Gabriel Brown is wrong, Phase 1 is dead-on-arrival Dan Brown

Seoul Subway just announced that they would soon start beta-testing MHN in select subway cars, then expand the service to all subway cars by early 2017.

This system uses a 30 Ghz mmWave linked WiFi hotspot to provide multi gigabit WiFi service to passengers onboard subway cars.

For more information on MHN, read this. http://www.telecompaper.com/news/koreas-etri-to-hold-5g-technology-demo--1119641

Koreans have a operational mmWave radio interface now, the one that works in subway tunnels over a distance of 2 km. 

 
DanJones 1/5/2016 | 5:04:19 PM
Re: Gabriel Brown is wrong, Phase 1 is dead-on-arrival Well, that could actually slow the deployment of 5G if you are correct (and there's still 4 yrs to go yet, lot can happen) because not having at least 2 providers spooks carriers.
TV Monitor 1/5/2016 | 4:30:30 PM
Re: Gabriel Brown is wrong, Phase 1 is dead-on-arrival Dan Jones

For the early years, carriers have no choice, since only Samsung can supply 28/39 Ghz 5G base stations due to the uniqueness of the antenna that makes long range(2 km) mobile mmwave communication possible, roughly 10 times the range demonstrated by Ericsson and Nokia with their vanilla antenna technology.

Others will try to catch up eventually as the 5G networks are deployed across the globe.
DanJones 1/5/2016 | 10:36:46 AM
Re: Gabriel Brown is wrong, Phase 1 is dead-on-arrival So in your vision of the future, all of the major US carriers, indeed all major carriers, use Samsung alone for 5G gear? You can see why that seems implausible, right?
TV Monitor 1/4/2016 | 9:08:11 PM
Re: Gabriel Brown is wrong, Phase 1 is dead-on-arrival Dan Jones

"They aren't going to regulate a situation where carriers have to use one provider, particularly not a foreign one."

Duh, there is no US-based cellular network equipment provider left in the US. All venders are foreign. What matter is if the vendor is cleared by the US government and Samsung Networks certainly is.

"And 5G DOESN'T fix the 4G data crunch issue."

5G relieves the data crush issue by removing the most data heavy users from LTE networks and moving them to 5G networks.

"Some people here still rock 2G flip phones."

Not for long, since the carriers are eager to shut their 2G networks down and deploy LTE networks instead.
brooks7 1/4/2016 | 7:59:55 PM
Re: Gabriel Brown is wrong, Phase 1 is dead-on-arrival Just a note on Speed of the US Government and Regulation:

Average Time between new Teleom Regulatory Frameworks:  64 Years....

seven

 
DanJones 1/4/2016 | 6:24:34 PM
Re: Gabriel Brown is wrong, Phase 1 is dead-on-arrival Hahahahahahaha, hahahahahahahahhaha, thanks for the laugh! Your faith in the speed and efficency of government agencies is charming!

Nonetheless, we're in an election year.

The existing FCC  could be gone by next year. They aren't going to regulate a situation where carriers have to use one provider, particularly not a foreign one. This isn't South Korea!!!

Just as likely that the existing lot sit on their hands and pass the 5G spectrum issue onto the next bunch of commissioners.

 

And 5G DOESN'T fix the 4G data crunch issue. Unless you believe that Samsung is going to magically sell 300M 5G phones to the US population as soon as 5G networks are up and running. Some people here still rock 2G flip phones.
TV Monitor 1/4/2016 | 5:58:37 PM
Re: Gabriel Brown is wrong, Phase 1 is dead-on-arrival Dan Jones

"That's going to be a problem for any of the major US mobile carriers then."

Well, they never faced a situation where the FCC regulation requires the use of equipment from single vendor before. None of the other vendors are able to supply 28/39 Ghz equipment yet, yet the FCC intends to allocate 5G in 28/39 Ghz band. Incidentally, Samsung was mentioned like 60 times in FCC's 5G NPRM, so you can guess who influenced the most in the FCC's 5G NPRM and convinced FCC that it could turn the previously useless 28 Ghz spectrum into beach-front property and make hundreds of billions auctioning them off, when every other venders were screaming for a low-band spectrum for 5G.

Since Samsung is the only vender able to supply such globally harmonized 5G base station equipment operating in the 24~40 Ghz range, the global 5G standard will essentially be what Samsung dictates. It is not Samsung's fault that Ericsson and Nokia are unable to produce a funciontally equivalent rival system. Heck, Ericsson and Nokia don't have Swedish and Finnish governments handing them over military-grade antenna technology that makes this possible.

"They're going to be extremely leery of using one provider, if it comes to that."

What other choices do they have? Wait for 500 Mhz of additional bandwidth open up below 3.5 Ghz? Is that even possible? The only frequency where you could find 500 Mhz worth of bandwidth in the US is 28 Ghz and up.

"Verizon is still going to have to deploy something along the lines of Phase I 5G. They said they would in 2017."

And then quickly run out of bandwidth in less than a year.

"They'll look like idiots if they wait around til 2022 or whenever 28GHz spectrum is commercially available in the US."

Fake 5G or whatever cannot be the fundamental solution to the exploding data traffic problem, the fundamental long-term solution is the Real 5G.
DanJones 1/4/2016 | 4:48:47 PM
Re: Gabriel Brown is wrong, Phase 1 is dead-on-arrival "So Samsung can wait, because it isn't like Verizon could go to Ericsson and order similarly proven 28 Ghz 5G base stations. Only Samsung could supply them."

 

That's going to be a problem for any of the major US mobile carriers then. None of them have ever picked a single infrastructure provider for a major network upgrade before. They always use 2 or more providers. They're going to be extremely leery of using one provider, if it comes to that.

"The problem with low-band 5G is the limited performance improvement, like 30% more speed, over stock LTE deployment, due to the lack of bandwidth in low-band. In other word, the low-band 5G is not the silverbullet for the industry bandwidth exhaustion problem, like the high-band 5G is."

 

Verizon is still going to have to deploy something along the lines of Phase I 5G. They said they would in 2017. They'll look like idiots if they wait around til 2022 or whenever 28GHz spectrum is commercially available in the US.  
Page 1 / 3   >   >>
HOME
Sign In
SEARCH
CLOSE
MORE
CLOSE