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uaetechnician
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8/20/2018 | 4:32:56 AM
5G race
Yeah, Japan is winning the race. and the real competition is between the techno giant countries for the network. and hope people will always surprised with the technology. 

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kq4ym
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8/17/2018 | 7:48:58 PM
Re: OBvious
It does seem as noted that if these numbers are correct and that the number of site matters, the fact that " China now has about 1.9 million mobile sites, according to Deloitte's research. The US has about 200,000" would seem to be a foreshadowoing of what's going to be the future numbers as well. But who knows.
R Clark
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8/8/2018 | 2:43:33 AM
Not how 5G will get adopted
Yes, cellsite numbers are a really crude metric. Obviously, cellsite density is much higher in east Asian cities than anywhere else in the world because of the population density. You can't get that in suburban America. In Seoul, Tokyo, Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong you've also got huge amount of fibre and widespread use of Cloud RAN/baseband hotel, which makes it incredibly quick and easy to set up new cellsites, hence the elevated number of cells.

The other point Deloitte miss is the way 5G gets adopted. Even with a lot of cellsites, it's going to be a slow and steady rollout in every country, regardless of who is 'first'.

The other part is industrial/commercial side of 5G, which is the big new development. That will depend as much on enterprise demand and innovation as on network availability. China's doing great on the network, but its economy is full of stodgy SOEs and inefficient firms who aren't great users of tech. So the network side of 5G is just one part, and the 'winner' of the 5G race will be the one that can make use of the new capability, not the one that's first to deploy.

 

 
James_B_Crawshaw
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8/7/2018 | 4:51:30 PM
Re: And?
We can hardly say that the US is losing the 5G race because of existing site density or anything else. Not all of the specs are ready, as Dan points out, and there aren't any consumer devices yet - see Dan's article for the device timeline. 

Is there even a race? Sure, vendors would like a race. And maybe some of the operators think they can get some kudos by being first to market. But does the consumer care? 

Did the US economy suffer from being laggard in 2G and 3G mobile and has it had a noticeable impact on the economy, relative to other countries, since 4G was launched?

How does that site density relate to the actual connectivity experience in US, China, Germany and Japan? 

This study from STL Partners suggests Japan has the best mobile app experience with a score of 78/100, Germany comes 7th with 53, USA comes 10th with 44 and China comes 14th with 35. 

http://www.apteligent.com/white_paper/mobile-network-customer-experience-index-h1-2016/

So site density and experience do seem to be correlated though China is the exception with higher density than Germany but worse app experience than USA. Perhaps letting the private sector decide where to put cell sites is more efficient than letting the state decide. Who knew?

 
DanJones
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8/7/2018 | 1:15:26 PM
Re: Tower Companies
No, I think that's right, a lot of the high-band has to be small cells not sites. in fact, this report appears to assume that 3.5GHz (aka China) spec 5G will deliver good coverage out of the box on macro sites and that ain't necesarily so, as we've seen with 2.5Ghz 4G.

It also (not the intention, surely) helps validate the T-Mobile/Sprint 600MHz 5G plan. T-Mobile has 997 "5G-ready" 600MHz live on 4G already. 600MHz does provide 5G coverage over a longer range and then they can go an backfill mid-band and high-band small cells for speed.
Duh!
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8/7/2018 | 12:25:54 PM
And?
If we take at face value the claim that the US is "losing the 5G race" because of existing site density is less than it is in China --

what are the consequences?

 
Carol Wilson
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8/7/2018 | 11:42:30 AM
Re: Tower Companies
I just finished writing something -- it will be posted this afternoon -- about what tower companies are doing in the edge compute space. 

That doesn't directly address 5G infrastructure because it is obviously much more dense than just towers. The folks I talk to say they are building other infra - small cells, DAS, etc. - but I didn't push them on pace because I was narrowly focused on edge compute. 

It seems like if there was a clear signal from the wireless carriers on what they want and what they are willing to pay for it, that it wouldn't be likely wireless infrastructure companies would be the hold-up. 

But I'm a bit out of depth here...
brooks7
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8/7/2018 | 10:59:58 AM
Tower Companies
So are we blaming the likes of Crown Castle for this?

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Johnasazda1
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8/7/2018 | 10:40:30 AM
OBvious
Well no wonders Japan is winning!
DanJones
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8/7/2018 | 10:33:45 AM
But the IoT 5G specs....
But the 3GGP IoT 5G specs aren't going to be ratified until the end of 2019, so the anticipated deployment of massive IoT doesn't even start till 2020 at the earliest.


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