So does Gedeon from TELUS expects NFV to be FREE???? Some of these comments look stark in text in a news report, but it's hard to judge context and tone from here.
depends on what kind of technology team isbuilt inhouse. If that handles development and support of nfunctions then 10x possible. bUt building such a team is tough and xpensive for telco.
While obviously not all of NFV's promise has materialized, concluding that NFV has failed to deliver is far reaching.
The values of NFV for service providers and enterprises can still be achieved when adopting the right product and right deployment strategy. D-NFV and uCPE solutions allow quick and efficient rollout of NFV managed services with minimal initial investment supporting an "invest as you grow" model.
Special importance should be given to choosing the right uCPE solution. The common tendency to select a solution, using the same criteria employed while selecting centralized NFV, or "jumping on the easy choice" of your current appliance/network-equipment vendor, might not yield the required results.
Re: We've realized a third of the savings. We need to get to a factor of tenrocket,
I think that you are missing the notion a bit. He is talking about 30% savings over doing the service without NFV. For a telco, that is a bare minimum for adopting a new vendor.
The big problem will be on the OPEX side, whereas it is pointed out more people are required during the transition. This transition is the 100% elimination of the old network. Until then, two staff positions are required. So, even if there are CAPEX savings there is an extreme downside on the OPEX side.
For your example, it would be the adoption of IP PBXes and SIP Trunking. Not only did one reduce the capital requirements, but you could fire the guy who knows about T-1. That was a 100% reduction in T-1 guy Opex.
We've realized a third of the savings. We need to get to a factor of ten>>We've realized a third of the savings. We need to get to a factor of ten.
Does anyone on this board can share any example where a company was able to realize savings by a factor of ten in ANY business??? If the CTO of TELUS is expecting savings by a factor of ten by moving to NFV, then I feel there is a very basic issue here in the way his understanding is about what is needed to implement NFV OR my undesrtanding is incorrect 100%.
Even a household will not be able to achieve savings by a factor of ten unless folks in the family just drink water for food and eat only salad and that too homegrown most of the time.
How in the world someone and that too a CTO of a company is expecting savings by a factor or ten is beyond my imagination. He is getting 30% savings alreday and that is a huge number by itself. Does Telus or any company offer a phone plan that costs 1/10th or even 1/5th of the going rate just because the network is more NFV focussed?
Please share your thoughts. I just don't seem to come to terms that someone could expect to run an existing business with 90% discount in cost of running the business.
I would like to hear of definite examples if there are any.
Re: "I pay people like Red Hat all of a sudden for OpenStack,"@yarn: TCO isn't everything, even if it should be more emphasized. Investors in public companies want to see increased profits quarter over quarter -- not increased expenditures. And the executives and lower-level employees making purchasing recommendations and decisions may not expect to be employed at the same company by the time cost savings is realized.
Re: So does Gedeon from TELUS expects NFV to be FREE????Even executives can fall for marketing -- and the open-source community's long-time messaging has been "It's free!" The unspoken part of that: "As long as you don't want support lol."
Local EPCsYeah, vEPC really fizzled out from all the hype a couple of years ago, huh?
Of course, we can't say we weren't warned for all that hype for those willing and able to read between the lines. As Gabriel noted in a 2016 Heavy Reading report, revenue from vEPC had a 70-30 split between software licenses and hardware investment -- in favor of software.
Re: So does Gedeon from TELUS expects NFV to be FREE????A follow-up story to clarify some of the points made in the original post would be a good idea. At least it would give Mr. Gedeon the opportunity to clarify his reported comments, which do come off as something short of clued-in.
Re: So does Gedeon from TELUS expects NFV to be FREE????Some of these comments look stark in text in a news report, but it's hard to judge context and tone from here.
Ibrahim Gedeon is a clued-in CTO. I suspect his comments were partly building a picture and reflecting on thought proceses everybody in the industry has had. He isn't naive that is for sure.
He's a good speaker. It's refreshing to have an operator exec articulate these issues in the open.
It may also reflect the frustrations of smaller operators who are more beholden to vendors and who can't (economically) run their own software development programs for what should be "commodity" functions.
I think that you are missing the notion a bit. He is talking about 30% savings over doing the service without NFV. For a telco, that is a bare minimum for adopting a new vendor.
The big problem will be on the OPEX side, whereas it is pointed out more people are required during the transition. This transition is the 100% elimination of the old network. Until then, two staff positions are required. So, even if there are CAPEX savings there is an extreme downside on the OPEX side.
For your example, it would be the adoption of IP PBXes and SIP Trunking. Not only did one reduce the capital requirements, but you could fire the guy who knows about T-1. That was a 100% reduction in T-1 guy Opex.
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Does anyone on this board can share any example where a company was able to realize savings by a factor of ten in ANY business??? If the CTO of TELUS is expecting savings by a factor of ten by moving to NFV, then I feel there is a very basic issue here in the way his understanding is about what is needed to implement NFV OR my undesrtanding is incorrect 100%.
Even a household will not be able to achieve savings by a factor of ten unless folks in the family just drink water for food and eat only salad and that too homegrown most of the time.
How in the world someone and that too a CTO of a company is expecting savings by a factor or ten is beyond my imagination. He is getting 30% savings alreday and that is a huge number by itself. Does Telus or any company offer a phone plan that costs 1/10th or even 1/5th of the going rate just because the network is more NFV focussed?
Please share your thoughts. I just don't seem to come to terms that someone could expect to run an existing business with 90% discount in cost of running the business.
I would like to hear of definite examples if there are any.
Of course, we can't say we weren't warned for all that hype for those willing and able to read between the lines. As Gabriel noted in a 2016 Heavy Reading report, revenue from vEPC had a 70-30 split between software licenses and hardware investment -- in favor of software.
Ibrahim Gedeon is a clued-in CTO. I suspect his comments were partly building a picture and reflecting on thought proceses everybody in the industry has had. He isn't naive that is for sure.
He's a good speaker. It's refreshing to have an operator exec articulate these issues in the open.
It may also reflect the frustrations of smaller operators who are more beholden to vendors and who can't (economically) run their own software development programs for what should be "commodity" functions.