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stephenkoran
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stephenkoran,
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3/19/2018 | 10:01:32 AM
Its more expensive, but so much easier
It may be more expensive to operate in the public cloud, but until Enterprises learn how to actually manage Infrastructure, the pubilc cloud will be faster, more robust, and a better option. 

Sorry, Dell.
mendyk
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mendyk,
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3/19/2018 | 10:09:20 AM
Proof points
Does Dell have any hard evidence that private cloud is more economical than public? That would be kind of important.
brooks7
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brooks7,
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3/19/2018 | 11:05:31 AM
Re: Proof points
The service I ran was about 1/3rd the cost of running it on AWS.  We ran the numbers constantly.  We could use AWS for overflow.  

The difference is that the service that I ran (an email service) saw much less of the massive ups and downs compared to the shopping sites.  So our need to dynamically scale was much less.  

seven

PS - we used Dell computers...but there was nothing magic about them.
mendyk
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mendyk,
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3/19/2018 | 11:24:47 AM
Re: Proof points
If Dell has any sort of analysis to back up the claim, like a breakout of TCO, that would be useful. The "trust me" approach probably doesn't work as well as it did in, say, 2016.
kq4ym
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kq4ym,
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3/19/2018 | 2:01:33 PM
Re: Proof points
It would appear the Dell may have a point, of course it all depends... In some cases you'll save money on the private end and sometimes on the traditional cloud. Number will have to be run or guressed at to see what works best.
mendyk
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mendyk,
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3/19/2018 | 2:05:10 PM
Re: Proof points
You could guess right, or you could guess wrong. Or flip a coin. That's usually not how due diligence on important decisions works.
brooks7
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brooks7,
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3/20/2018 | 10:18:35 AM
Re: Proof points
 

The difference is that it is quite deterministic, but varied based on application.  In most markets, one size does not fit all.

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mendyk
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mendyk,
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3/20/2018 | 10:35:32 AM
Re: Proof points
Dell's "mischief-making chief technology officer" appears to have tapped into the defining characteristic of this mini-era: the truth is what you say it is. That may not be helpful to enterprises making cloud strategy decisions that will have long-term ramifications.
Phil_Britt
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Phil_Britt,
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3/22/2018 | 9:57:29 PM
Re: Proof points
Who needs proof points in this day of "alternative facts." Companies, politicians and many posting on social media have no concern that their "facts" will be questioned. And, unfortunately, in many cases, questionable facts are taken at face value.
kq4ym
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kq4ym,
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3/28/2018 | 4:07:35 PM
Re: Proof points
Yes, we'll have to be careful not to fall for alternative facts or attribute fakeness to what might be the real truth of the matter when comparing costs and expenses going one way or another. Falling for the hype and not testing our unique situation can certain create havoc at the bottom line.


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