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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
1/27/2018 | 10:53:02 PM
Re: Amazon
@maryam: If those are the reasons for it not being Miami, then it sure as heck won't be Boston, NYC, LA, or Newark. ;)

So, sure, a "surface city" could well be what it is.
maryam@impact
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1/26/2018 | 6:24:19 PM
Re: Amazon
I am betting it will a surface city and the negations from here are all the gain the best deal. I do think Miami might be an issue since their public transportation isn't as mature and 50,000 cars in downtown Miami could be an issue.
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
1/26/2018 | 5:58:05 PM
Re: Amazon
@maryam: I'm guessing it won't be NYC myself, but that said there are major metro areas -- like Austin, like Miami, like Nashville -- that might make a heck of a lot of sense for Amazon.

In any case, however, it kind of doesn't matter. Let's stop calling it HQ2, because it's NOT going to be a real headquarters, as far as I can tell. It's just a really, really big branch.

And a really, really big branch can almost go anywhere.
mikeroch
mikeroch
1/25/2018 | 7:49:22 AM
Re: Amazon
Amazon has been going great now on, but when I mention I live in Illinois and my ex-governors make my license plates, it usually gets a smile/chuckle (and isn't far from true).
maryam@impact
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1/24/2018 | 12:38:34 PM
Re: Amazon
Joe interesting perspectives all around I do agree that the courting process was all about what they could garner and they probably already had a short list. Now its more about pitting one location against another. I honestly don't expect a major metro area to win such as new york because of the operating costs but time will tell. 
I expect that one of those peripheral to a metro area will be chosen to manage costs talent and the number of people expected to live there.
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
1/23/2018 | 11:39:30 PM
Re: Amazon
Atlanta is a hub, but I feel Austin has a better chance -- particularly because of its already techy/hipster population combined with the fact that its already the location of the HQ of Whole Foods.

My stomping grounds of Boston are up there too. I hope it's not Boston. Commuting is bad enough -- both on the roads and on the MBTA -- without adding over 100,000 new workers to the mix. Ugh.
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
1/23/2018 | 11:37:21 PM
Real estate
Wherever they pick, the primary benefit to inure to people in the area is going to come in the form of an enormous residential real-estate boom.

Well, benefit to homeowners and real-estate investors, in any case. For first-time homebuyers and people looking to relocate and buy, not so much.

Meanwhile, infrastructural headaches and other issues will abound.
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
1/23/2018 | 11:35:13 PM
Re: Amazon
@kq4ym: While I don't disagree with the idea of rehabilitation in such a way, I would quibble with the issue of my tax dollars being used in yet another way to so directly support Amazon.

But, then, they already have rehabilitation programs that support private businesses. So, indeed, what makes Amazon so different in this regard?
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
1/23/2018 | 11:34:00 PM
Re: Amazon
@mhh: It's just a gimmicky marketing/PR label for a large-ish campus. The legal effect is likely to be nil.* It's just their pageantry to court big tax breaks and other significant incentives as they play all of these municipalities off of each other.

* DISCLAIMER: Obviously, not legal advice or the formation/affirmation/implication of an attorney-client relationship. Nothing I post here qualifies as any of that, and you'd be a fool to think so.
kq4ym
kq4ym
1/23/2018 | 9:32:39 AM
Re: Amazon
That might make an interesting social experiment, have incarcerated folks work at fulfullment centers where it might be fairly easy to secure such large buildings while making training a part of rehabilitation. There might even be found a sense of pride in working for Amazon vs. the making of license plates!
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