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Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
1/1/2018 | 8:52:41 AM
Re: Back to the cloud future
Joe: Is Oracle actively trying to outdo their top cloud competitors? Or is it more minding their own business trying to offer the best cloud service they can possibly offer to their clients? Sometimes an organization can miss their business goal if it’s too much focused on the competition.
Michelle
Michelle
12/31/2017 | 10:09:10 PM
Re: Back to the cloud future
I don't remember reading about Ellison's critism of "clouding all the things". I have a feeling the sentiment holds up after all this time. 

Oracle does seem to be running behind competitors. They have a lot of ground to make up. It all seems impossible to me from the cheap seats.
maryam@impact
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12/31/2017 | 4:48:45 PM
Re: Back to the cloud future
True but the innovation may come in how the cloud is packaged and sold. Time will tell.
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
12/29/2017 | 11:32:01 PM
Re: Back to the cloud future
@maryam: Yeah, we're moving toward cloud decentralization through multicloud convergence right now. And what consolidation is coming is in the form of private clouds on-prem. A cloud "crash" could be coming absent some real innovations.
Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
12/29/2017 | 11:30:28 PM
Re: Back to the cloud future
@Susan: Oracle seems like it's been huffing and puffing to catch up for quite some time now in the cloud market -- and that no matter what exciting offering they come up with next, they have difficulty outdoing their top cloud competitors.

Of course, this line of thought leads to Monday-morning quarterbacking of Larry Ellison's infamous criticisms about cloud evangelism way back when -- but, to be fair, he was speaking more about the idea of slapping a "CLOUD" label on everything.
maryam@impact
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12/29/2017 | 5:45:20 PM
Re: Back to the cloud future
I do agree that cloud consolidation will come but probably not right now.  We still have a lot of growing and evolving to do in the market before we see a consolidation.
Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
12/27/2017 | 6:05:59 PM
Re: Back to the cloud future
No doubt about it. Now it comes a time for consolidation. It will be interesting to see how IBM and Oracle evolve in this coming year and how such evolution is going to affect the cloud market leaders.
Phil_Britt
Phil_Britt
12/27/2017 | 1:27:25 PM
Re: Back to the cloud future
A niche focus can work for some, especially if they are scale-challenged compared to competitiors.
danielcawrey
danielcawrey
12/27/2017 | 1:24:23 PM
Re: Back to the cloud future
IBM should just focus on the private cloud market. Honestly, I did not realize they were doing $4b a year in cloud business. That's good, but probably needs to be better for such a large company. Keeping focus on private cloud is key if you ask me. 
Phil_Britt
Phil_Britt
12/26/2017 | 5:22:27 PM
Re: Back to the cloud future
The cloud companies that dominate, as previously predicted, will need to continue to adapt and grow to hold on to their market positions.
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