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5/22/2017 | 11:16:27 AM
Re: VZ
 

Kb,

So, the part that was subsidized by taxpayers...are you going back to the days when Bell Atlantic and NYNEX were part of AT&T pre-split.  Because I didn't see any subsidies when they were building FiOS.  And I was pretty involved in that.  If there were specific subsides for them to build FiOS (which is what we were discussing here), why didn't anybody else do it? 

Finally, you probably have not really paid attention to my assertons that we need to create High Speed Broadband as a Universal Service (which makes it mandatory to deploy) with escalating bandwidth over time.  There is unlikely to be a change in the competitive environment, so we have what we have.  The tradeoff will be that we will have to ensure that Verizon (as well as everyone else) will get a reasoned ROI.  Otherwise, they will just exit wireline markets and then nobody will deliver service.

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KBode
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5/22/2017 | 10:39:25 AM
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"If we can get past the measuring contest, perhaps we can agree on that Verizon's strategy will be that which is good for Verizon."

That's complicated by the fact that a huge part of the network in question was subsidized by taxpayers, but sure. Quicker ROI is good for Verizon. No doubt. That's not really the end of the conversation, though. 
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5/19/2017 | 4:45:54 PM
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If we can get past the measuring contest, perhaps we can agree on that Verizon's strategy will be that which is good for Verizon.  If that is not true, then they need a new management team.  Even back in the early days of FiOS we knew (because they told us in the RFP) that they would not be doing 100% of their network.  You are right that they are focused primarily (though not exclusively) on Wireless, Enterprise, and Internet Infrastructure.

We can not expect a company to invest where it sees less profit.  That would be (as in the words of John Grisham) stupid, stupid, stupid.  We are going to either have to mandate investment (and ensure reasoned returns) or expect no change in the future.

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KBode
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5/19/2017 | 1:08:48 PM
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Yes, sorry, meant Ivan Seidenberg.

"In any event, the zeitgeist of big corporations is not as you think. Strategy is constantly reexamined in light of changing circumstances."

I've been writing about them for two decades, so I have a pretty good finger on their zeitgeist. Verizon's focus will remain on 5G wireless and media (ads) for the forseeable future. That's where the money is. There's no way they shift strategies any time soon and start spending big on residential fixed line. Competition from Altice means no chance to impose usage caps and overage fees, which (myopic or not) dulls their interest in caring about fixed-line residential.

 

 
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5/19/2017 | 12:07:32 PM
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I think you mean Seidenburg, not Whittaker.  Different companies, very different styles.

In any event, the zeitgeist of big corporations is not as you think. Strategy is constantly reexamined in light of changing circumstances.
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5/18/2017 | 6:57:53 PM
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KBode is correct -- while a cable company might have some attractive assets, it would also have a lot of excess baggage that would do nothing to benefit Verizon. So such an investment would be ill-advised.
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5/18/2017 | 2:16:51 PM
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Their position on FiOS has been pretty static ever since Whitacre retired. Broadband is too competitive for them on the east coast. At least competitive enough that they can't get away with imposing usage caps to get better quarterly results. So they shifted their focus a while ago, and they haven't really looked back.
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5/18/2017 | 2:06:44 PM
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That assumes that their strategy is static.  The way I read the tea leaves, it has evolved since 2010. If you listen to the call, Ellis pretty much lays it out there.
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5/18/2017 | 1:43:02 PM
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Yes. They're not really keen on FiOS. And the Boston investment has more to do with IOT and 5G than getting FiOS to people. I bet in three years you'll be seeing the same complaints about patch availability in Boston as we've seen in Philly, DC and NYC. They're no longer really interested in fixed-line residential broadband. 
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5/18/2017 | 1:39:24 PM
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Conference audio is available via their investor page. What I hear him saying is that they're focused on fiber assets that they can leverage across their businesses. I'm also hearing him say that they're more focused on organic growth (c.f., the Corning and Prysmian supply contracts) than on M&A, because "A lot of the fiber that is out there is not really the fiber we're looking for". He also mentioned that the cash from the Frontier transaction allowed them to go into the XO transaction, and pointed out that those properties are copper-heavy (as well as being outside their Northeast bastion).

I was also hearing a more than lukewarm commitment to FiOS. FiOS revenue was up 4.7% Y-Y in Q1, and the wireless business is challenged, so it's not the ugly duckling that it once was. If Boston is the model, as he kept saying, we will be looking at FiOS footprint expansions, at least in urban markets.
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