kq4ym 4/14/2017 | 11:36:30 AM
Re: It's up to us It would be interesting if employees would be willing and could publicly post their salaries and benefits online in some sort of forum to spark discussion and provide more impetus to gaining more equality in pay sooner than later. But, I'm thinking there's still too much fear of losing privacy or recrimination from employers who don't want numbers posted for all to see.
cking6178 4/6/2017 | 4:05:05 PM
Re: It's up to us Sarah - respectfully disagree with your assertion that the linked article, The Insitute for Women's Policy Research, correctly breaks down the basis for the gap. The argument I've seen from your side is a blanket argument that ignores the direct comparisons for employees performing the same jobs. It also ignores the "lost" pay women are subject to bc of maternity leave - it's only a recent phenomenon that men have been granted paternity leave - this should start to help close that "gap" as well. In the end, what your side argues is that the gap is due to unequal pay for equal work, but that's not today's reality. EVERY company I've worked for in the past decade has had in place a salary band system that "slots" employees in based on market rates. Now whether the employee negotiates a package above what's intially offered is something that would be missed by these generic surveys - and science does show that, on the whole, women are less likely to negotiate their compensation packages than men (my own personal experience shows me this as well. Every single guy I know at least pushes back on the first offer and asks for more and only about 30% of the women I know do the same thing - I get it, my personal experience doesn't equate to scientific evidence, but it does reinforce the stats I've seen - one example here, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110602982.html


If you want to argue that women are under represented in the C-Suite, by all means I'm with you there. 
Sarah Thomas 4/6/2017 | 11:10:26 AM
Re: It's up to us The source hyperlinked in the article, The Institute for Women's Policy Research, breaks down the basis for the 82 cents to the $1 statistic, as well as explains and details the gap by state, occupation, ethnicity and more.
mendyk 4/6/2017 | 10:36:41 AM
Re: It's up to us I'm sure there are people who don't believe there's any such thing as a wage gap. All the data I've seen suggests that such a gap does in fact exist. It's really not hard to find multiple sources on this. The language you use to disparage this story is over the top. And remember -- if you don't want to read a story, you don't have to.
Austin Idol 4/6/2017 | 10:27:37 AM
Re: It's up to us mendyK, I come here to read about technology, telecommunications, and wireless. Not to read political op eds about the perceived unfairness women feel they are subject to in the economy. If you are going to make blanket statements about 82 cents on the dollar then you should be able to back it up and speak to it. Otherwise this is just a propaganda piece. 
mendyk 4/5/2017 | 1:40:05 PM
Re: It's up to us Maybe a source that's more to your taste can start a telecom industry news service, presenting only points of view that you agree with.
Austin Idol 4/5/2017 | 3:23:32 AM
Re: It's up to us Shouldnt the job of closing this so called wage gap be up to the people most affected by it? The women themselves? What are the details behind the 82 cents figure? This appears to be more of a political propaganda piece and not what I come light reading for hence undermining what you are advocating. What defines equal work? What defines equal performance?
Kelsey Ziser 4/4/2017 | 1:32:24 PM
Re: It's up to us I agree, I think it will be up to companies, industries and states to make real change. It's a shame Trump rolled back the 2014 Fair Pay and Safe Workplaces order. Seems like rolling that back just benefits C-level employees at large corporations, not the workers of Middle America that Trump promised to support. 
Sarah Thomas 4/4/2017 | 12:40:24 PM
It's up to us Let's be honest, the job of closing the wage gap is going to fall to individual companies, industries and the states. Trump is not going to help women at all. His executive order provides more evidence of that. From the hyperlinked NBC article

"The other result of Trump's executive order on federal contractors was lifting a mandate on paycheck transparency, or requiring employers to detail earnings, pay scales, salaries, and other details. The Fair Pay order Trump overturned was one of the few ways to ensure companies were paying women workers equally to their male colleagues."
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