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TV Monitor
TV Monitor
11/23/2016 | 7:18:56 PM
Re: Speaking of timing
Dan Jones

When you read the proposed CBRS regulation, it's pretty much a nightmare, so basestations and compatible handsets will not come quickly, nor can the CBRS match the raw bandwidth of 28 Ghz mmwave 5G.
DanJones
DanJones
11/23/2016 | 2:20:58 PM
Re: Speaking of timing
no probs! sorry we can't be more specific yet,
eafpres1
eafpres1
11/23/2016 | 1:56:13 PM
Re: Speaking of timing
Thank you for the clarifcations.
DanJones
DanJones
11/23/2016 | 12:24:22 PM
Re: Speaking of timing
oh yeah, on devices, I'm guessing that 3.5GHz will be the first thing that Google tries as a wireless fiber replacement. So the devices will be more like LTE home routers to start. They've asked the FCC if they can use more transmit power than others are using, so think enhanced small cell type ranges to start.
DanJones
DanJones
11/23/2016 | 12:24:22 PM
Re: Speaking of timing
oh yeah, on devices, I'm guessing that 3.5GHz will be the first thing that Google tries as a wireless fiber replacement. So the devices will be more like LTE home routers to start. They've asked the FCC if they can use more transmit power than others are using, so think enhanced small cell type ranges to start.
DanJones
DanJones
11/23/2016 | 12:11:54 PM
Re: Speaking of timing
That's right, 3.5GHz CBRS spectrum is scheduled to go ahead of 28GHz auctions. When all of this happens exactly depends on when the 600MHz auction is completed, which looks like 1st quarter of 2017 but who knows exactly?
TV Monitor
TV Monitor
11/23/2016 | 11:48:07 AM
Re: Speaking of timing
eafpres1

On question 1. US 3.5 Ghz block is not a normal LTE/Low-band 5G block like it is elsewhere, it is shared with military and requires special device registration with FCC. Accordingly handsets would not be "normal" types as well.

On question 2. No. 2020 is for 28 Ghz mmwave 5G, not for 3.5 Ghz CBRS service.
DanJones
DanJones
11/22/2016 | 6:25:02 PM
Re: Speaking of timing
Actually, Murphy & Nokia are carrying out the LTE testing with Google. he thinks it is only logical they could move onto 5G afterward.

Timing is tricky because the 600MHz auction is dragging on. Opening up 3.5GHz should follow that, but with the sharing issues and developing an ecosystem, does that happen before 2020?

Hard to be sure about that yet.
eafpres1
eafpres1
11/22/2016 | 11:22:38 AM
Speaking of timing
Hey Dan--thanks as always for the great intel.  

Question1:  Is it possible that Google and the telcos may roll out 3.5 GHz as some form of LTE and "migrate" to 5G?

Question2:  From your discussions do you think 3.5GHz 5G could arrive in the US before the 2020 target everyone is talking about?
TV Monitor
TV Monitor
11/19/2016 | 12:06:45 PM
Re: And why does Nokia want to compete directly with Chinese vendors?
Dan Jones

The return on investment of 3.4~3.6 Ghz blocks will be a lot less than the 28 Ghz blocks.

For example, you have 4 x 50 Mhz TDD blocks or 2 x 100 Mhz TDD blocks, because single carrier cannot have all 200 Mhz.

Even if you get the 100 Mhz TDD block, the peak throughput per cell is limited to 3 gbits/s in real world conditions. You will be running out of bandwidth quickly.
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