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GregW333
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9/30/2016 | 6:11:05 AM
Re: GoogleFiber
Very true Kbode...just read/listen to the main stream news outlets...:-)  
KBode
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9/29/2016 | 5:34:48 PM
Re: GoogleFiber
Hah,  truth itself is fluid these days. :)
GregW333
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9/29/2016 | 5:23:59 PM
Re: GoogleFiber
doesn't really matter...the definition of a word is fluid these days....
KBode
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9/29/2016 | 5:17:51 PM
Re: GoogleFiber
Hmm, I don't know why, but I always thought the definition of overbuilding has been that it leans more heavily on an existing network assets than focusing on building networks entirely from scratch:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/overbuilder

 

Been so long since I've had to use it (RCN days) perhaps I've just mangled the meaning in my head.

 

 
GregW333
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9/29/2016 | 5:04:44 PM
Re: GoogleFiber
Kbode...that's what overbuilding is...   Overbuilding the geographic serving area with a new network...meaning someone has to run fiber down the street as $50k/mile (Aerial) 
KBode
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9/29/2016 | 4:34:34 PM
Re: Nailed it.
"Nice job, Mitch. From a cable perspective, cable companies always seem to get in trouble whenever they stray from their core mission: being reliable distributors of entertainment and information content."

Yes. Notice how they don't give stats regarding their push into home security and home automation services?
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9/29/2016 | 4:33:58 PM
Re: GoogleFiber
Overbuilders overbuild. Google is doing a little of that, but is also building entire networks from scratch.
KBode
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9/29/2016 | 4:33:24 PM
Re: Nailed it.
"The grass is always greener. Keeping up with the Joneses. Etc. For almost a generation now, incumbent telcos have been bringing in "visionary" CEOs who are expected to push their organizations into high-growth, high-valuation roles that don't suit them. It ends up being something like trying to teach pigs to sing, to dip into the cliche pool once more"

This. They do not have the necessary innovation in their DNA because, as government pampered duopolists, they really don't have to. This doesn't magically change just because you launch a streaming video service (nobody is using) aimed at Millennials. 
brooks7
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9/23/2016 | 1:42:33 PM
Re: Nailed it.
 

The money is there Craig.  Are any of the large ISPs losing money?  No, they just would prefer if their valuations and profits were higher.  They get to make a guaranteed return on investment in virtually any amount they put into the network.  It is only a question of when.  Plus they need scale to make this work, which in the days of hyper targeting is only going to be their for the most basic of services.  Imagine if a telco fired all their smart networks gurus and just built dumb, fast, cheap pipes...they would make a boatload more money.

The worst part is what it does to the vendor community.  The Servcie providers pitch network smarts all the time and little if any get deployed.  How many companies have face planted into that sink hole?  

The thing is that application providers CAN'T really use smart networks because they then limit who they can sell to.

All of this reminds me of my gym.  They decided they wanted to get a younger clientele so they changed the music.  Of course, they didn't lower the prices so younger people could afford to go there.

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9/23/2016 | 9:08:44 AM
Re: Nailed it.
Craig -- We can roll out the cliches for this situation. The grass is always greener. Keeping up with the Joneses. Etc. For almost a generation now, incumbent telcos have been bringing in "visionary" CEOs who are expected to push their organizations into high-growth, high-valuation roles that don't suit them. It ends up being something like trying to teach pigs to sing, to dip into the cliche pool once more. On the cable side, though, I do think the strategy of moving into access has worked very well, don't you? I wonder if that's going to work as well with the move into wireless.
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