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Joe Stanganelli
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9/23/2014 | 2:48:54 AM
Re: Won't get fooled again
@Mitch: Cisco isn't alone in this vision.  I recently attended the Connected Cloud Summit here in Boston -- where IoT was the word of the day.  Many companies outside the Valley are understanding the importance of IoT not simply as a new fad, but as an important step in the evolution of networking IT.
lgradina
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9/18/2014 | 7:17:45 PM
Re: There's no going back
Interesting ... GSMA's Network 2020 is building "All-IP" first, then security and and by the end (2020), SDN/NFV. Similar if not same ecosystem.

http://www.gsma.com/network2020/

Why so much talk around  IP this year?

- Maybe it is hard to accept that Old IP, New IP, All-IP - is still IP!

- Maybe it is hard to change IP (Internetwork Protocol) altogether?

Think in reverse: if a strog player or a disruptor proves something better than IP today, what would you hold on to: Old IP, New IP or just IP?  

 
Mitch Wagner
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9/17/2014 | 1:32:13 AM
Re: Won't get fooled again
Here's an example:

Cisco Pitches Vision for 'Internet of Everything'

Also touched on here: 

Cisco's Chambers Predicts 'Brutal' Tech Consolidation

Cisco sees the Internet of Things (which it calls the Internet of Everything) as being vastly bigger than the networking market today, leaving plenty of room for Cisco to continue high-margin growth. 
Steve Saunders
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9/16/2014 | 9:39:34 PM
Re: bus model
that's right, Ray. And it forces netwrok operators to categorize themsleves in on or the other. It's not about "supporting" something (like a standard). It goes to the actual business function of the network. 
Ray@LR
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9/16/2014 | 1:40:27 AM
Re: bus model
If this industry didn't have new terms that would be a sign that it had ground to a halt....

It's also important to note that this is not a technical term and is not related to a specific technology/standard/protocol, so using it in the same sentence as IPv6 is not, in my view,very relevant.

This is a term that relates to a concept -- that we are now in a new era of IP networking, and it's a term that neatly encapsulates that there is a very distincy difference between what has been the norm up to now and what that norm will be in the near future.

 
Steve Saunders
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Steve Saunders,
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9/15/2014 | 8:35:57 PM
Re: Won't get fooled again
articulate where? In briefings? I haven't briefed but have looked around and didn't see much... 

I mean, i cd use a briefing, obviously, but then again, service providers may not be briefed either!

 
Mitch Wagner
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Mitch Wagner,
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9/15/2014 | 8:20:58 PM
Re: Won't get fooled again
Cisco has been quite articulate about its Application Centric Infrastructure and how that achieves network programmibility. I can't see anything missing in Cisco's marketing. 

Whether reality lives up to that marketing will be an existential issue for Cisco. 

 
Steve Saunders
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9/14/2014 | 10:43:09 PM
Re: bus model
I think there's a bit more to it than marketing... though i agree that there's too much hype and hooplah right now. 

The thing that i personally like about this term The New IP is that it isn't a buzzword, or part of the jargon - it's just a really simple way of dividing the comms world into two - before and after.

And within that categorization you can fit just about anything that is IP comms related. So this is actually about simplifying and making it comprehensible to the c-level folk that coulnd't care less about IPV6, to use your example.

I'm sure not everyone will get on board but it works for me!

 

Steve   

 
danielcawrey
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9/14/2014 | 2:29:03 PM
Re: bus model
Another buzzword for the lexicon. I don't think it's necessary – it acutally seems a bit confusing to be in all honesty.

With have IPv6 coming, and now the New IP – this is all part of the constant rate of change in technology, and I feel as though this is more an exercise of Silicon Valley marketing departments than anything else. 
DanJones
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9/12/2014 | 3:28:09 PM
Re: I coulda done better
As the RAN elements of mobile networks and mobile devices get pulled more into this virtual world as well we'll have to get smarter about how we classify, store and manage data too.

 

There will be so much contextual data being produced on and about mobile devices and users that some will have to be stored locally and then dumped. As well as big data, we'll have small data (say, for instance, information about what parking spaces are nearest to the user's car), which will serve a useful purpose for the user in the moment but is probably not worth retaining after that.
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