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mendyk
mendyk
8/21/2014 | 12:16:59 PM
Driven to distraction
Families staring up the barrel of six-figure debt loads must be thrilled that Comcast is so interested in providing entertainment options to keep Joe and Jane College out of the classrooms and the libraries.
Ariella
Ariella
8/21/2014 | 1:06:00 PM
Re: Driven to distraction
@mendyK Students will find distractions no matter what. But I thought that the idea was that some of these are supposed to be of educational value. Back in my day, professors had to drag in big television sets and VCRs to show videos, except in one special room that was set up as a small movie theater.
mendyk
mendyk
8/21/2014 | 1:51:38 PM
Re: Driven to distraction
And back in my day, the professors made elaborate cave paintings to get their points across. There's nothing in the story to suggest that this has anything to do with edumicational programming.
Ariella
Ariella
8/21/2014 | 1:59:58 PM
Re: Driven to distraction
@mendyk You're right. I just assumed that if they were going into the schools, they would claim there is some value to beyond entertainment. Cave paintings are cool, right up there with bowties.
mendyk
mendyk
8/21/2014 | 2:04:08 PM
Re: Driven to distraction
I can see Game of Thrones being grafted into a poli sci course or two. Anything to make matriculation easier for the kids is worth pursuing and OK by me. We all know what awaits them afterwards.
Ariella
Ariella
8/21/2014 | 2:08:01 PM
Re: Driven to distraction
@mendyk No joke, some of these things can be the feature of a class on contemporary culture. It was in a high school rather than college, but I know of someone who taught a class that consisted of nothing but films. It wasn't a study of film but a collection of ones considered inspirational like "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington."
mendyk
mendyk
8/21/2014 | 2:16:51 PM
Re: Driven to distraction
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/university-virginia-offering-college-credits-watching-game-thrones-1457949

 
Ariella
Ariella
8/21/2014 | 2:19:52 PM
Re: Driven to distraction
@mendyK You can't top truth for strangeness.
Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
8/23/2014 | 12:05:16 PM
Re: Driven to distraction
Ariella, 

"I know of someone who taught a class that consisted of nothing but films."

Do you know what class the teacher was teaching? Or, was it contemporary culture? 

Many films have been used for classes but a class that consisted of nothing but films sounds intriguing, creative, and nice.

-Susan 
Ariella
Ariella
8/23/2014 | 9:39:31 PM
Re: Driven to distraction
@Susan yes, and you can have a serious film class, as well. But this teacher knew that this was just a way to keep some very weak students occupied. They seemed to have just watched the films and not to have followed up with serious papers on them. 
Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
8/24/2014 | 6:11:55 AM
Re: Driven to distraction
Ariella, 

So then it was sort of a pointless thing? Not necessarily followed up with papers on them, but at least discussions that could lead to something, at least to develop critical thinking. Many things can be done with a film used in a class. 

-Susan 
Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
8/23/2014 | 1:02:03 PM
Re: Driven to distraction
mendyk, 

"There's nothing in the story to suggest that this has anything to do with edumicational programming."

That doesn't mean there is no educational program behind this. This can easily be used as a teaching tool.    

Video, film, music, recorded TV shows have been used for a long time as part of educational programs. There are even specialized courses for teachers about how to use these as teaching tools.   

-Susan
mendyk
mendyk
8/23/2014 | 4:47:03 PM
Re: Driven to distraction
Pretty much everything I know about opera I learned from Bugs Bunny. If you look at the details of this initiative, you will see there is absolutely NOTHING here to do with some sort of grand educational plan. Just like there's nothing inherently uplifting about sticking Coke machines in dorms. It's all perfectly fine and legal. And ultimately pointless.
Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
8/24/2014 | 6:03:08 AM
Re: Driven to distraction
mendyk, 

Yes, yes. Now I see. I was in the false expectation that this could be used to take advantage of technological tools available for some educational project. Maybe some teachers will see the potential and do something positive with it. Maybe not.  

Coke machines in dorms? Well, let's see what all this will do to the students. Nothing brilliant, or healthy can come out of this. 

Bugs Bunny is a genius. 

-Susan
danielcawrey
danielcawrey
8/21/2014 | 4:27:31 PM
Re: Driven to distraction
Very true statement... this is an obvious marketing strategy aimed at making sure people need their cable television from an early age. 

I would prefer to read a book or go outside, honestly. But I can't deny that I don't watch video. Of course, I am of the generation that does so via streaming media. 
mendyk
mendyk
8/21/2014 | 4:34:55 PM
Re: Driven to distraction
The big soft-drink companies and their high-school administration enablers took a lot of justifiable heat for this kind of market seeding (cheap soda in school cafeterias). Given the potential disruption that video services can have on student behavior, I wonder why video providers and their college administration enablers don't come under the same criticisms.
kq4ym
kq4ym
8/23/2014 | 12:00:04 PM
Re: Driven to distraction
Yes, it does seem interesting that the colleges would go for this, but on the other hand getting this "extra" feature into their system would probably help recruit and keep students at the school. It certainly is a blantant marketing tool for Comcast no matter that it is free.
thebulk
thebulk
8/21/2014 | 12:49:23 PM
Innovative but complicated
so the Philo service sounds very innovative, but the complications of delivery could cause some issues when it comes time to scale down the road. 
MUGMODs
MUGMODs
8/21/2014 | 1:21:55 PM
Comcast
It can't be any worse than all the time spent on social media sites...when they should be paying attention to the lecture. Seen it all!
Ariella
Ariella
8/21/2014 | 1:58:56 PM
Re: Comcast
@mudmods yes, I've seen that in high schools in which students are given laptops to use. 


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