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unbearable 4/25/2014 | 12:36:20 PM
Re: Unfortunate Karl Bode:

What a bunch of malarky.   Have you ever run a business?

Overage fees generate only one thing: unhappy customers, who spread the word.

Fios expansion stopped because it isn't profitable, given the cost to implement, versus the penetration rates available.  

The majority of potential customers do not want to pay Fios rates, so the minority who are willing are out of luck.


It is well-known what happened in Boston: greedy politicians interfered, and Verizon walked out.   What has changed?



Joe Stanganelli 4/25/2014 | 12:14:08 PM
Re: Unfortunate Verizon is indeed focused on expanding in the Boston area...although it is coming slowly.

But I suspect that you are right -- that they have decided that there is more money to be made in the 4G market.
Joe Stanganelli 4/25/2014 | 12:11:53 PM
Re: Unfortunate FWIW, I have been seeing FiOS being built into more condo/apartment buildings in my neck of the woods -- and stealing more customers away from major competitor Comcast.  It seems like FiOS really is concentrating on growing *up* rather than growing out.

That said, for whatever it's worth, the main reason I refuse to switch to FiOS is because of their lack of 24/7 customer support.
brookseven 4/25/2014 | 12:01:38 PM
Re: Unfortunate Dennis,

FiOS expansion has been capped for several years.  I think you can probably search the site to find when Verizon announced they have stopped laying new Fiber (F1 & F2 - they are still doing F3 for new orders).



The big fight now is that people are starting to use a lot more of the bits per second they buy and buying fewer new bits per second.  So, bandwidth usage is still going up deeper in the network.  The expansion of bit rate at the access level has slowed.


Duh! 4/25/2014 | 12:01:13 PM
Re: Unfortunate Read the transcript of the analysts' call.  They addressed both the slowdown and the footprint question.

mendyk 4/25/2014 | 9:32:56 AM
Re: Unfortunate This week, Verizon got regulators in New Jersey to agree that 4G is an acceptable alternative to wireline to fulfill VZ's 20-year-old promise to deliver broadband service throughout the state. I take that to mean there will be no further expansion of FiOS footprint in NJ.
KBode 4/25/2014 | 8:24:13 AM
Re: Unfortunate Former CEO Seidenberg stated they'd want to hit around 40% penetration before considering any expansion. Though Seidenberg was bullish on FiOS, and the new executives since only see dollar signes from LTE wireless overage fees. There's certainly room to expand should they ever want to (Boston comes to mind). 
chuckj 4/25/2014 | 1:15:07 AM
Re: Unfortunate Is the whatever-law that predicts need for bandwidth doubles every so often officially dead and buried alongside with net neutrality?
tb100 4/24/2014 | 5:57:21 PM
Re: Unfortunate Yes, I seem to remember back when Verizon slowed down their FiOS buildout that they made the argument that they had a lot of room to grow just within the areas that they had already built in. 

Now that those areas aren't growing so much, I wonder if they are going to start building out FiOS again. I would think the healthy revenues they are getting would be a good incentive for a renewed FiOS expansion.
Mitch Wagner 4/24/2014 | 5:37:13 PM
Unfortunate That's unfortunate, Alan. If geographic constraints are slowing adoption, why doesn't Verizon build FiOS to new areas? Or is it a vicious cycle: They can't support the buildout until they get more demand, and without more geography they can't get more demand?
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