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MordyK
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9/30/2013 | 3:12:36 PM
Re: Indoor - the new land grab
In a way it is your type of market where sharing networks makes the most sense as the cost of coverage per person is relatively high and this only compounts itself as you go down to markets that are tier 3 and below. One just need to look at a given carrier's coverage map and you see the holes in coverage as proof.

This is why VZ outsourced/leased their spectrum and brand to 3rd parties that were interested in building Verizon networks in those markets

In the US we had a network sharing arrangement that was later dissolved during the merger of Cingular & AT&T. At the time Cingular's northeast tri-state network and T-mobile's southeast networks were combined into a fully shared infrastructure network but separated in terms of spectrum and network ID's (probably some more separations as well).
MordyK
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MordyK,
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9/30/2013 | 2:35:27 PM
Re: DAS and Small Cells
You need to remember that it's not just fiber but "dedicated" fiber. and the answer is yes once you expand the sort of areas that can be addressed. There's a reason that tons of investment and R&D dollars are being put into alternative small cells & DAS backhaul technologies. The answer to most question is to follow the money :)
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9/30/2013 | 2:23:03 PM
Re: DAS and Small Cells
Is there a large market where wireless networks are highly congested but fiber is not easily available to backhaul ? I hear that most of the dense urban locations in US/EU/Japan and even some other parts of Asia have fiber easily available.
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9/30/2013 | 5:05:29 AM
Re: Indoor - the new land grab
Hi MordyK,

Here, is in the US, small metro market but big enough to have all the carriers present and building.  We are typically 1-2 years behind what the major metro markets are doing.

I have seen providers share backhaul (from wireless receiver to MTSO and logically separated) but not access (customer to wireless receiver), perhaps it is because they haven't found the need to or perhaps they are still working on how they want to approach this specific market.  I am going to say it is most likely the first reason.

It could also be that the land owners granting easements make it tough to share as well.  There isn't much room to just drop and H frame and a cell tower, and even if there is room getting approval is a nightmare, so carriers have resorted to 'cell friendly' buildings.  I know of a building with 4 separate huts on the roof, one for each major player, but the last guy put on a structurally weaker side of the roof and had to build a load distributing platform for their hut, which they did, since it was the easiest way to build out in that particular the area.

In any case, I guess I'll keep my eyes open, thanks for the feedback.
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9/29/2013 | 2:19:47 PM
Re: Indoor - the new land grab
I think there is more openness to network sharing, depending on the situation, than there used to be. However, carriers still want to beat the competition for new revenue opportunities, and if I was Verizon I would look at this first as a new way to market better performance to enterprises, and an argument for handing all, or at least most, of their business to Verizon.
MordyK
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MordyK,
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9/28/2013 | 3:55:08 AM
Re: Indoor - the new land grab
Mark, I'm not sure where "here"is.

The line between shared network and shared space is very thin as it means different things to different people at different times.

There's a long history of sharing network and or spaces. These range from shared towers to neutral host DAS and even carriers using the same networks and virtually separating them. The latter has become especially popular for 4G networks due to the costs and coverage mandates.

What appears to be something carrier's would turn their backs on might actually becom every popular.
MordyK
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MordyK,
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9/28/2013 | 3:49:17 AM
Re: DAS and Small Cells
Simon, What are your thoughts on shared RAN small cells?
MarkC73
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9/28/2013 | 2:44:37 AM
Re: Indoor - the new land grab
I doubt anytime soon the carriers here would ever share a network, space perhaps, but network never, too much varibles and liability.  Maybe instead you'll just have your own femtocell at your desk, if your carrier can't or won't do SC in your building.  Side note I think the ALU's 7705 PMC as well as the Light Radio are pretty niffty.
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MordyK,
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9/27/2013 | 5:58:43 PM
Re: DAS and Small Cells
The problem with the DOT IMHO is the need for dedicated fiber lines. The introduction of the small cell concep tlead to the birth of a diverse backhaul technology portfolio due to the fact that dedicated lines or lines of any sort may not be available. Frankly this makes sense for VZ to deploy as they like going solo on DAS systems so if they can get their hands on a mall or a stadium where they would have invested in direct lines anyways this sort of solution makes sense, however for carriers ot hung up on ownership and one-upmanship i'm not sure that this is a suitable solution.
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9/27/2013 | 5:53:52 PM
Re: Indoor - the new land grab
ALu has been promoting shared RAN small cell functionality for a while, and frankly it's only when carriers finally agree that it makes sense to co-locate that enterprises and other facilities will agree to have them placed on their premises, to avoid just this mess of branded devices. From a business perspective shared RAN SC's makes more sense as the cost of deployment and maintenance are spread across all thecarriers, thus enabling a speedier deployment and deeper penetration especially in areas that dont justify a SC for a single carrier but do in combination.
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