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Sarah Thomas
Sarah Thomas
10/1/2013 | 2:22:55 PM
Re: Same deduction from crowd-sourced database
Thanks for sharing this, Akash! Really interesting, especially to see what APs are most dominant, since some companies make you do the guesswork on your own (ahem, Starbucks). Would love to see more of your visualizations. Shoot me an email at [email protected] Thanks!
Akash Baid
Akash Baid
10/1/2013 | 2:19:39 PM
Same deduction from crowd-sourced database
As part of a research project, we analyzed the AP densities in different cities by making API calls to the WiGLE.net database (arguably the biggest crowdsourced Wi-Fi AP database in existence). 

What we saw is that San Fran overtook NYC around April 2012 in terms of the density of deployment. We made a primitive visualization to show how the numbers evolved over the years: http://www.winlab.rutgers.edu/~baid/apViz.html

Interestingly, we can also estimate the relative share of different vendors based on the WiGLE dataset. We found, for example, that the ranking of providers in terms of number of observed APs is 1) Motorola, 2) Ruckus, 3) Cisco in San Fran and 1) Cisco, 2) Aruba, 3) Ruckus in NYC !

We can do a more thorough visuzlization covering more cities if there is interest in this.
albreznick
albreznick
9/26/2013 | 5:28:00 PM
Monetizing WiFi
So, Sarah, if they're not charging for WiFi access, are SPs, retailers, stadia and the like finding any other ways to make money off it? Or will it remain a totally free service for the masses?
albreznick
albreznick
9/26/2013 | 5:23:32 PM
Re: Apples and ostriches
But there's no match for NY pizza, bagels and Jewish deli food, Sarah. SF doesn't hold a candle to NYC there. Nor does any other city I know of.  
mendyk
mendyk
9/26/2013 | 11:47:04 AM
Re: Apples and ostriches
You forgot Rice-a-Roni and smelly harbor seals. NYC can't match SF on either of those metrics. But there must be some reason that NYC's population is an order of magnitude higher than SF's.
Sarah Thomas
Sarah Thomas
9/26/2013 | 11:39:04 AM
Re: And the Midwest?
Carol, I think that is definitely the goal. But I haven't seen it yet.

Even sign-on screens can be enough to keep people on cellular, I think, especially at places you aren't at for very long. Where it's most important is places you stay put for awhile like coffee shops, parks, and stadiums. I wonder if we'll see the carriers emphasize indoor much going forward. If they do, it'll probably be for the opportunities you mentioned. 
Sarah Thomas
Sarah Thomas
9/26/2013 | 11:36:52 AM
Re: Apples and ostriches
San Fran already has better coffee, Mexican food, and access to wine/mountains/Apple. You can't let it beat you on WiFi too.
mendyk
mendyk
9/26/2013 | 10:52:33 AM
Apples and ostriches
We won't rest until every bodega, Duane Reade, and Tad's Steaks offers free and open WiFi to Manhattanites.
Carol Wilson
Carol Wilson
9/26/2013 | 10:39:16 AM
And the Midwest?
I'm guessing Chicago trails both cities substantially, although we are struggling to catch up. 

It's interesting to see how many retailers and others are letting folks use the WiFi free-of-charge with little or no security, just based on terms acceptance. Is there any tracking of how many people actually go from store to store, hopping from WiFi net to WiFi net? Do you know if any of the retailers are also pushing ads with their WiFi or other "shopping aids?"


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