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brahmos 12/5/2012 | 1:58:07 AM
re: Wipro Soars on Outsourcing > What's the chinese name for the Himalayas?

he has already said it was his last post.

Beijings stragtegy has always been to exert
pressure by other means (economic, political,
proliferation, terrorism) when a clear-cut military
resolution cannot be obtained , as the case
is on the Indo_tibetan border now. The 'peaceful
intent' is not a morality change but more a
case of waiting for the right conditions to emerge.

fortunately decades of self-destructive economic
isolation in India is over and that itself should
ensure 'peace & friendship' from china.

and ofcourse a few A3's will continue to lose
themselves in the vast hills and dales of india :)

peace thru strength.
sigint 12/5/2012 | 1:58:06 AM
re: Wipro Soars on Outsourcing brahmos:

fortunately decades of self-destructive economic
isolation in India is over and that itself should
ensure 'peace & friendship' from china.

peace thru strength.
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Well put. Now the real need is to *somehow* get rid of corruption in defence procurement in general. that would open the way for private companies in the defence sector, better pay, and better engineers. 10% or less of people employed in the defence labs are endowed with both competence and commitment. the deadwood floats up the ranks, and cripples projects.
brahmos 12/5/2012 | 1:57:54 AM
re: Wipro Soars on Outsourcing > ....Brahmos appears to have stayed in the US
> too long. Average Indians have little interest
> in any conflict outside the sub-continent.

1. if you are dealing with Pak, you are dealing
with the ripe fruits of PRC proliferation. its
one and the same. shrewd people do not directly
attack , they use a cats paw. if you are dealing
with the bangladesh based terrorist orgs, again
follow the trail to where the arms comes from...
..same for the maoist rebellion in Nepal.

2. average movie/cricket fanatic doesnt get to
run foreign policy - thankfully :-) let them live
in their own little cocoon and be happy.

3. the decision makers do care a lot for PRC,
so you see A2/A3 one one side (useless for Pak)
and strong & growing trade relations on the other.
reality_bites 12/5/2012 | 1:57:54 AM
re: Wipro Soars on Outsourcing Most people in India are not concerned about China or even Pakistan. There are two things that drive popular consciousness - movies and cricket. Pakis get more attention since they are our flesh and blood (even if they deny that) and also play cricket....Brahmos appears to have stayed in the US too long. Average Indians have little interest in any conflict outside the sub-continent. We have no inherent hostility towards China or anyone else. We are engaged only to the extent necessary and essentially do not particularly care. If China wants to screw Tibet and Tibetans over any more than they already have, they will only destroy the roots of their spiritual heritage and eventually pay a huge price as a nation. They are too smart to do that ; else they would not have survived so long.
-desi-from-india.
edgesansonet 12/5/2012 | 1:57:51 AM
re: Wipro Soars on Outsourcing That kinda brings me to the point. I have been to China, Hong Kong, Singapore and India. Of all the street guys that I met, Hong Kong guys seem to have more balanced views than Chinese or Indians. Most Indians I met in Calcutta were ignorant of their external problems ala most Americans. Simply said, they seemed brainwashed by themselves into song-and-dance movies or the British sport called Cricket. Chinese on the other hand were totally brainwashed into communist propaganda ala Nazis, may be a trifle less cruel though. Doesnt that say something about why Indians/Chinese that come to USA think different? May be, it is the place. US society allows even immigrants a chance to look at problems more realistically. It is a good testament to that. I am an immigrant myself who came here when I was very young.
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lightbay 12/5/2012 | 1:57:51 AM
re: Wipro Soars on Outsourcing Hong Kong guys seem to have more balanced views than Chinese or Indians.

I thought 99% of people in HK are Chinese, 1% British leftovers, isn't this right ?

Most Indians I met in Calcutta were ignorant of their external problems ala most Americans

Isn't happiness the most important thing in life ?

US society allows even immigrants a chance to look at problems more realistically. It is a good testament to that. I am an immigrant myself who came here when I was very young

Maybe you are brainwashed by CNN and Fox News wihtough noticing it, like those Germans by Nazis, or Chinese by communists.

Followed some link in early post, found this interesting:
http://us.rediff.com/news/2002...
By a POW of the 1962 war - he seemed to be a high level office because he was under Gen Kaul who was under direct command of Jawaharlal Nehru.
lightbay 12/5/2012 | 1:57:50 AM
re: Wipro Soars on Outsourcing FACT:

The biggest power generating dam that be built anywhere in the world sits right inside the disputed area between China and India. If built, it would be 4 times larger than that of the current largest Three Gorges Dam. Enough to supply 20% of India's or 10% of China's eletricity consuption.

QUESTION:

Would this ever built ?
edgesansonet 12/5/2012 | 1:57:49 AM
re: Wipro Soars on Outsourcing >> I thought 99% of people in HK are Chinese, 1% British leftovers, isn't this right ?

Yes...ethnically they are Chinese but they were under British commonwealth till 1997. Even today, they retain some iota of democracy though the real political power is in the hands of the CEO, a CCP politburo appointee.


>> Maybe you are brainwashed by CNN and Fox News wihtough noticing it, like those Germans by Nazis, or Chinese by communists.

I do not watch Fox News. Remember CNN is more balanced than any other news channel. PBS is a good site to begin with.
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sigint 12/5/2012 | 1:57:40 AM
re: Wipro Soars on Outsourcing edgesansonet:
Most Indians I met in Calcutta were ignorant of their external problems ala most Americans.
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Calcutta is very political - people are obsessed with local politics out there, to the exclusion of much about anything else.

edgesansonet:
Simply said, they seemed brainwashed by themselves into song-and-dance movies or the British sport called Cricket.
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And television soap operas. However, the emerging class of young Indians that's career concious has only one remaining obsession, and that's cricket.
(it's a game of intense strategy making, try it!)You might be surprised by how politically aware people are and how intense political discussions can get to become.

edgesansonet:
Doesnt that say something about why Indians/Chinese that come to USA think different? May be, it is the place. US society allows even immigrants a chance to look at problems more realistically. It is a good testament to that.
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I had heard of an engineer from one of the Services companies who was posted at a customer site in the US last year, at about the time the US was on the verge of declaring hostilities in Iraq. He received some anti-war mail, and forwarded it around to a few American co-workers. One of the recipients [who probably had switched to freedom-fries in preference to the french variety :)], complained to the management. The Indian engineer was promptly asked to pack his bags and leave.

It's not the place, it's the circumstances and time that matter. If you had met people in Calcutta during the Kargil conflict, you'd have heard more intense discussions on foreign affairs and military policy.

sigint 12/5/2012 | 1:57:40 AM
re: Wipro Soars on Outsourcing lightbay:
The biggest power generating dam that be built anywhere in the world sits right inside the disputed area between China and India. If built, it would be 4 times larger than that of the current largest Three Gorges Dam. Enough to supply 20% of India's or 10% of China's eletricity consuption.
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the himalayan region you speak of ("terai", as it's called in India) is a seismic time bomb. i think it wouldn't be prudent to indulge in heavy engineering out there.

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