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wildcard 12/4/2012 | 8:23:54 PM
re: WaveSmith Too Good to Be True? I agree, WaveSmith should abide by the same forthright and honest business practices that have been hallmarks of the Lucent tradition. ;-)


Or if that doesn't work, there is always the high road cisco often takes with its strong arm tactics. But point well taken, honesty indeed, there is money involved here people.

Try the Prawns...

gladysnight 12/4/2012 | 8:23:54 PM
re: WaveSmith Too Good to Be True? "Oz is the next step up the line if it ever sees the light of day."

Not a question really of whether it sees the light of day - it almost certainly will.

The real question is will anyone buy it?

Will it be worth buying?

One would hope so, but right now you'd be hard pressed to find many people prepared to bet on it.
gladysnight 12/4/2012 | 8:23:54 PM
re: WaveSmith Too Good to Be True? "People decades! Goodness me, what will you Americans think of next...vendor financing perhaps :-)"

You raise a good point. One thing I've often wondered is how much clout the vendors have over their vendor-financed companies.

Effectively they have often become major stockholders in the business ventures they've financed, but they (SEEM TO) have had no representation at board level, which any prudent large scale investor would want, in order to protect their investment.

Given the "no taxation without representation" history of the US, this seems ironic at least, and possibly even insane.

Anybody have any thoughts or information on this angle?

Much Obliged
wildcard 12/4/2012 | 8:23:53 PM
re: WaveSmith Too Good to Be True?

Mad shrimp disease?
right_leading 12/4/2012 | 8:23:52 PM
re: WaveSmith Too Good to Be True? >Author: kupfi
>However, just because old man LU has problems
>does not mean that all the telcos will flock to

Where then? Telica?
Dredgie 12/4/2012 | 8:23:51 PM
re: WaveSmith Too Good to Be True? or +ëquipe?
silent mariner 12/4/2012 | 8:23:35 PM
re: WaveSmith Too Good to Be True? I think that it will a long road to the first sale to a carrier for this box. Why would a carrier buy a start-up box to fit into critical, revenue generating networks, especially one designed essentially by the same crew that built the LU boxes mentioned in the article. Since Wavesmith is in need of funding soon, beating the hype drum can't hurt at this point.

Does anyone have an opinion on whether LU is just waiting for this thing to see the light of day before pursuing some legal action against those that left LU to build it? Just a thought....
fk 12/4/2012 | 8:23:34 PM
re: WaveSmith Too Good to Be True? I don't think you can argue both sides of the argument (at least not successfully.) On the one hand you are attacking the product because it is produced by a start-up, and presumably therefore must not be as good because the start-up doesn't have the expertise to make it comparable in quality to that of the existing vendors. On the other hand, you note that many of the people on the team were responsible for designing and implementing the very product that they seek to replace. So by this measure, it would seem that they have sufficient expertise. I also get the impression that because they (some of them) designed the existing standard box, which is now getting long in the tooth and is showing its limitations, they are somehow limited by this history in your opinion. Who among us has grown with each product we've designed? Who wouldn't change some things about any design they've ever made? It's called learning and growing, and if your mind is open, is a lifelong process.

I haven't the slightest idea whether they will make it or not, but this habit of groundlessly criticizing every single start-up (and every large company as well) is both meanspirited and more reflective of the criticizers than the criticizees.
silent mariner 12/4/2012 | 8:23:33 PM
re: WaveSmith Too Good to Be True? My point is that the carriers won't commit to large networks from start-ups at this point.
chubbabubba 12/4/2012 | 8:23:33 PM
re: WaveSmith Too Good to Be True? I would argue that many of the WaveSmith folks have NOT built this product before - SOME of the engineers might have, but many are from enterprise/vpn/edge plays, like New Oak.

More importantly, look at the management team - heavily weighted with enterprise, edge/access experience - not what it takes to succeed in the distributed multiservice "carrier class" space. This ain't no VPN dialup box.
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