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Duh! 12/5/2012 | 2:57:26 PM
re: Verizon Spells Out 100 Mbit/s Quote:
I don't understand why this model isn't used by eg Verizon on the east coast.

In suburbs, this model is more tricky.
End Quote:

Have you ever been to the US east coast? Do you actually think that a substantial portion of the population in Verizon's territory lives in MDUs?

More to the point, are you so naive as to think that Verizon hasn't modelled, analyzed, confidence tested and analyzed again their opex/capex model for all kinds of architectures?

What is it about this topic that brings out all kinds of people with opinions but no facts?
rjs 12/5/2012 | 2:57:25 PM
re: Verizon Spells Out 100 Mbit/s As JEPOVIC wrote in post 19

" ....

I don't understand why this model isn't used by eg Verizon on the east coast.

In suburbs, this model is more tricky. Still, PON seems awfully complicated, poorly standardised and anything but future-proof. I still think it's a dead end. "

I believe the above was a rhetorical question, but if not my opinion is as below.

I believe the answer is that everybody will then know that technology is not the issue with 100Mbps deployment. PON gives a good barrier to entry for
monopolistic walled gardens.


Also, throughput and toggle rate should not be confused. Throughput's upper limit is defined by the toggle rate. With a 100Mbps (toggle rate) p2p ethernet, the throughput can be much lower due to statistical muxing, and once the back bone is ready to handle a throughput of 100Mbps per subscriber upgrades are easy.

Technology is not the bottleneck, FCC and monopolies are the real bottleneck.
Remember, if it were not for VoIP we would still be filling the coffers of ILECs for 10c/minute calls. ILECs will not change unless their revenue is threatened.


-RJS
jepovic 12/5/2012 | 2:57:24 PM
re: Verizon Spells Out 100 Mbit/s Yes, I have been at the US east coast.

Are you so naive as to think that a company like Verizon base their decisions primarily on rational network cost calculations?

Of course they think very seriously about the regulatory aspects as well, which was one of my points.

The other point is that they may have been fooled by the vendors. This happens all the time! A couple of high-level meetings on the golf course can "make" the decision about technology and vendor from the top. Alternatively, efficient marketing towards the right technical "gurus" can "make" the decision from the bottom.

After all, these are terribly difficult questions with an endless amount of parameters to estimate. In the end, gut feelings will be more important than numbers. As has been shown in endless organizational studies, business cases and number crunching is usually done as a justification after the actual decision (but before the formal decision).
bollocks187 12/5/2012 | 2:57:21 PM
re: Verizon Spells Out 100 Mbit/s Surewest in Sacra. CA deploys Active Ethernet. Also several carriers in EMEA.
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