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joset01 12/5/2012 | 4:13:21 PM
re: Verizon Intros Femtocell So, if you pay $250 and no further fees for a femto is that a good deal?

DJ
paolo.franzoi 12/5/2012 | 4:13:19 PM
re: Verizon Intros Femtocell
I am really underwhelmed by this. If they built a router to replace my existing home router with all its features and gave me a femto on top of it for under $100 - MAYBE I might consider it.

But for this? Just give me a phone that includes a VoIP application over WiFi. I already OWN a WiFi router. Since they require a broadband setup, why not assume I have WiFi. My favorite bit is disclaimers around Wireless Broadband as WAN side. If I had a good Wireless Broadband connection, I probably don't need a femtocell.

If this is what is coming for femtocells, it will become the Ryan Leaf of the wireless business.

seven
freetoair 12/5/2012 | 4:13:18 PM
re: Verizon Intros Femtocell bad deal.
what am i getting?

I have a desktop PC, laptop and a smartphone.
Why do i need/want this?

Because I have a coverage/capacity/bandwidth problem?
gocowboys 12/5/2012 | 4:13:17 PM
re: Verizon Intros Femtocell I happen to be in a coverage dead zone (for Verizon wireless). Guess that the TV ads are not all that true...what a surprise! Anyhow, I am tired of going out on the porch and lifting one arm South, holding my leg and then dialing with my nose. For $250 and no fees, it is in the price range of a new phone. For that, I will happily give it a shot.

I looked at the coverage and 5,000 square feet represents about 70' by 70'. I am not worried about the neighbors using the femto...they are much further away than that. In addition, my upload speed (measured) is running approximately 3 Mbps. So, 40 kbps is not going to mess anything up.

I will let you know how I make out. Can you hear me now?

freetoair 12/5/2012 | 4:13:17 PM
re: Verizon Intros Femtocell no one else gets it either...

...but vendors and the media/analysts hype it...so carriers try it...why not...

again this dog is on the same path as FMC (which was a media/vendor/analyst favorite not so long ago)...all hail FMC -- all hail Femto...yeah yeah yeah
macster 12/5/2012 | 4:13:17 PM
re: Verizon Intros Femtocell I don't get it. You pay the phone company to provide the service including coverage and backhaul. Now they want you to pay them for a femtocell and you get to pay for the coverage and backhaul they are meant to be providing.

So if this thing has a 5000 foot (1.5km!) range no doubt you will be providing backhaul and coverage for quite a few other people. Even if that figure is out by an order of magnitude it's still a very big area. Perhaps one reason why there is no EVDO support.

Sounds like a great deal. For the phone company.

For doing this they should be paying you.

I predict market failure.


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Usage of home Node B's (femtos) depend on "user groups" (or closed user groups). Femtos and UEs will have such information. As such, unlike unsecured WiFi, you don't unwillingly share your connection.
lrmobile_millomar 12/5/2012 | 4:13:17 PM
re: Verizon Intros Femtocell I don't get it. You pay the phone company to provide the service including coverage and backhaul. Now they want you to pay them for a femtocell and you get to pay for the coverage and backhaul they are meant to be providing.

So if this thing has a 5000 foot (1.5km!) range no doubt you will be providing backhaul and coverage for quite a few other people. Even if that figure is out by an order of magnitude it's still a very big area. Perhaps one reason why there is no EVDO support.

Sounds like a great deal. For the phone company.

For doing this they should be paying you.

I predict market failure.
macster 12/5/2012 | 4:13:16 PM
re: Verizon Intros Femtocell Cowboy,

That's true. For the likes of AT&T, having a femto solution is useful, given the dreadful indoor coverage in NA (unlike Europe where one can estimate the indoor traffic to be about 80%).

You ought to have no worries about others "tapping" into your connection - think secured WiFi (something like that).

Femtos make use of DSL specs, e.g. TR69, etc. Nothing wrong with that, but my concerns are around this. Especially in the (majority?) of cases where the mobile operator does not have their own DSL network.

Oh, and handover issue are not sorted yet in standards, from macro to home node b - so your call will drop when you get out of the car into your home - lol.



Mac

P.S. I hear you loud and clear :)
paolo.franzoi 12/5/2012 | 4:13:12 PM
re: Verizon Intros Femtocell
Just FYI, I had a UMA phone from T-mobile and could access my secure wifi at home. I switched to a G-1 because a) my t-mobile signal got beter and b) I have a cable modem and can tell you first hand about poor voip quality over cable (over DSL no problemo).

seven
joset01 12/5/2012 | 4:13:12 PM
re: Verizon Intros Femtocell Let us know how it goes. Thanks

DJ
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