re: Vendors Vie for FT GPON DealYou can be happy I am older than 21, otherwise you would end up in prison for giving me your email and asking for a banana show ;>)
re: Vendors Vie for FT GPON DealYou guys either have no idea what you are talking about or you are blinded by bad experiences working for a company bidding for FT. At FT as well as virtually everywhere in Europe, these days are pretty much over.
Given the regulatory situation on both sides of the ocean, I would say that RBOCs have a much less competitive environment and thus more space to play political/protectionist tricks, a game European incumbents can't afford any more. They are too busy trying to slash CAPEX.
Get this: How many Huawei DSLAM/OLTs (or other networking widgets for that matter) have been deployed in North America? And in Europe?
The article is mostly wrong anyway, on about every possible detail. Ray, I guess you should find other monkey buddies, the ones you're hanging out with are hiding the bananas far away from you.
re: Vendors Vie for FT GPON DealXornix Care to enlighten me (or show me your banana, which ever you like)? I'm intrigued to know about all the bits in the article you say are wrong. [email protected]
I can assure you that the buzz here on the show floor in Barcelona is of the FT RFP...
re: Vendors Vie for FT GPON DealTrue.... talk about asking for trouble.
Good job I didn't mention the plums....
Back to the subject in hand, it seems the current France Telecom GPON procurement process might be quite advanced. Stand by for further details.
To the French vendor point -- I think the days of nationalistic contract awards are on the wane. Look at what happened to Marconi in the BT 21CN process, and FT's initial NGN engagements go beyond its home borders eg Ericsson for IMS.
Having said that, as Alcatel was the GPON provider for last year's trial, it's well positioned to land some more business.
re: Vendors Vie for FT GPON Deal There are no foreign DSLAMs in the US except for that pesky French startup Alcatel with say an 80% market share.
So, call me when the largest vendor in FT is not French. It is very hard in any country to be from another country and become and incumbent if there is a large local manufacturer. That is why the Marconi case is so striking.
re: Vendors Vie for FT GPON Deal I guess the Access companies in the US - particularly Motorola, Tellabs and Adtran would beg to differ with your characterization.
I would bet my entire net worth that Alcatel gets 100% of the deal. They will force it to be so, there is no way that they will allow a foreigner in to the only GPON tender of any theoretical size in Europe.
re: Vendors Vie for FT GPON DealFirst we were talking "100%", now we're talking the "largest".
What about Alcatel being the (by far) worldwide leader on access, having a strong sales team and strategic assets in the US and the US having no strong incumbent access player anyway?
By the way, care to provide your phone number? I think Alcatel may want to call you on DSLAMs.
Get over it, it is easier to have business relationship with people from the same cultural background and strong local presence, but the "old Europe" is now in a mood where it thinks it has more to gain than to lose at integrating with the world economy, which also applies to the telecoms business.
ehhhh [blows out a cloud of smoke and puts a look of disdain on his face]
I hear Jerry Lewis does not do GPON...so eh....it will be 100% French!
seven :)
PS Everybody else is bidding to ensure Alcatel doesn't charge an outrageous price.
Given the regulatory situation on both sides of the ocean, I would say that RBOCs have a much less competitive environment and thus more space to play political/protectionist tricks, a game European incumbents can't afford any more. They are too busy trying to slash CAPEX.
Get this: How many Huawei DSLAM/OLTs (or other networking widgets for that matter) have been deployed in North America? And in Europe?
The article is mostly wrong anyway, on about every possible detail. Ray, I guess you should find other monkey buddies, the ones you're hanging out with are hiding the bananas far away from you.
Care to enlighten me (or show me your banana, which ever you like)?
I'm intrigued to know about all the bits in the article you say are wrong.
[email protected]
I can assure you that the buzz here on the show floor in Barcelona is of the FT RFP...
Ray
Good job I didn't mention the plums....
Back to the subject in hand, it seems the current France Telecom GPON procurement process might be quite advanced. Stand by for further details.
To the French vendor point -- I think the days of nationalistic contract awards are on the wane. Look at what happened to Marconi in the BT 21CN process, and FT's initial NGN engagements go beyond its home borders eg Ericsson for IMS.
Having said that, as Alcatel was the GPON provider for last year's trial, it's well positioned to land some more business.
Ray
There are no foreign DSLAMs in the US except for that pesky French startup Alcatel with say an 80% market share.
So, call me when the largest vendor in FT is not French. It is very hard in any country to be from another country and become and incumbent if there is a large local manufacturer. That is why the Marconi case is so striking.
seven
Concerning your bet, your wife will certainly thank me for not taking it.
I guess the Access companies in the US - particularly Motorola, Tellabs and Adtran would beg to differ with your characterization.
I would bet my entire net worth that Alcatel gets 100% of the deal. They will force it to be so, there is no way that they will allow a foreigner in to the only GPON tender of any theoretical size in Europe.
seven
What about Alcatel being the (by far) worldwide leader on access, having a strong sales team and strategic assets in the US and the US having no strong incumbent access player anyway?
By the way, care to provide your phone number? I think Alcatel may want to call you on DSLAMs.
Get over it, it is easier to have business relationship with people from the same cultural background and strong local presence, but the "old Europe" is now in a mood where it thinks it has more to gain than to lose at integrating with the world economy, which also applies to the telecoms business.