Tony Li Leaves Cisco Again

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Internaut 12/5/2012 | 3:00:39 AM

re: Tony Li Leaves Cisco Again
Does the new company allow Tony to post to lightreading?

He says he's allowed to post now.

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flush_meat 12/5/2012 | 3:00:32 AM

re: Tony Li Leaves Cisco Again In my view, Tony is really great. He has the guts to try out different things. Sure, his skill set is pretty well known. People of that sort tend to be bit aggressive and bit harsh/rude at times. It doesn't bother me too much personally. I have seen a bunch of cartoons in my previous startup attempts. The CEO moron didn't have any clues on routers and he is a CEO for a router startup. Instead of working with such idiots, it is certainly better to work with people like Tony.

Good luck Tony.

/FM

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flush_meat 12/5/2012 | 3:00:30 AM

re: Tony Li Leaves Cisco Again Tony, when is the website going to be ready? I guess, it is www.portola.com ?

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cd 12/5/2012 | 3:00:29 AM

re: Tony Li Leaves Cisco Again With all the icon status given to Tony, my friends in HFR had high expectations for him - only to be disappointed. He was as good as an average HFR tech lead (and half of cisco eng has tech lead title these days). No wonder he left not wanting to be one of the many.

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wwatts 12/5/2012 | 3:00:28 AM

re: Tony Li Leaves Cisco Again cd says:"With all the icon status given to Tony, my friends in HFR had high expectations for him - only to be disappointed. He was as good as an average HFR tech lead (and half of cisco eng has tech lead title these days). No wonder he left not wanting to be one of the many."

That probably says more about Cisco's corporate structure than it does about Tony's abilities. Plenty of brilliant people have been made average by large corporate bureaucracies. How many great-leap-forward ground breaking products have come out of Cisco in the past half decade?

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new_light 12/5/2012 | 3:00:26 AM

re: Tony Li Leaves Cisco Again "Plenty of brilliant people have been made average by large corporate bureaucracies. How many great-leap-forward ground breaking products have come out of Cisco in the past half decade?"

Well said,
I worked for Cisco during the bubble (5 years) and left when I saw how many idiots were walking the hall ways during my final days there.
Personally, I believe all of those acquisitions dilluted the gene pool...

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trzwuip 12/5/2012 | 3:00:24 AM

re: Tony Li Leaves Cisco Again True that.

Not just Tech. leads, Cisco also has hundreds of useless Directors. They got loads of Directors and Sr. Managers with zero reports. A good amount of VPs have so few reports under them that they don't even classify as managers.

It's becoming like working for the Fed. You get decent salary, just know how cruise in the system.

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startup_shutup 12/5/2012 | 3:00:23 AM

re: Tony Li Leaves Cisco Again CISCO stock should be punished heavily -- should be around 13 dollars

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uguess 12/5/2012 | 3:00:19 AM

re: Tony Li Leaves Cisco Again >>With all the icon status given to Tony, my friends in HFR had
>>high expectations for him - only to be disappointed. He was as
>>good as an average HFR tech lead (and half of cisco eng has
>>tech lead title these days). No wonder he left not wanting to be
>>one of the many.

I really don't believe Cisco has that many people who are technically as good as Tony.

On the other hand, going back to Cisco was a bad decision for Tony at the first place. He should know he would not be able to help the Procketeers at Cisco.

uguess

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fgoldstein 12/5/2012 | 3:00:17 AM

re: Tony Li Leaves Cisco Again I've been in some recent email discussions with Tony, and while I don't know him personally, he's one of the clearest thinkers out there. He gets to the heart of the issue and makes straightforward technically-astute statements based on experience and common sense. This is a nice contrast from so many managers, marketeers, promoters, self-promoters, and others who know the buzzwords but don't really understand what goes on behind the curtain.

Big companies tend to be very political. I went through this at Digital/DEC, when their fast growth era ended. The management survivors were often the suckups and glad-handers who told the people above them the falsehoods they wanted to hear. I wonder if Cisco has reached that stage. There are still a lot of good technical people there, but perhaps it's getting harder for the top ones to get past the phonies.

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