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kp9988 12/4/2012 | 10:01:39 PM
re: The Telltale Sign I specifically like your last two sentences.
52608 12/4/2012 | 10:01:33 PM
re: The Telltale Sign Here's how they score:

1. No one answers the phone
2. Parking lot: Maybe 5 cars
3. Lobby: Unattended--gotta use phone in lobby--but then nobody answers it. You can here it ringing loudly thru the glas partition but not a creature was stirring not even a mouse--never switched to voicemail first 3 tries after 20+ rings eachj, then 4th try went to someone voicemail, then after 20 minutes someone came outside--weird dude--"what can we do fer ya?"
Like get me back to earth....dude.
4. Signin sheet on lobby desk--no entries for 2 weeks. Previous entries like one a day, maybe.
5. % of cubicles occupied once you're inside? 3%
6. Bodycount Once I got into inner sanctum: 6 humans observed over 5 hours in a building that would normally house 200+ (block long building).
7. Question about where is everybody? "OH, all 90 of our engineers are in England".....like doing what, having lunch with the Queen?
8. Tradeshow participation? Just dropped 100% of their 2002-03 commitments.
9. When one of the caretakers was asked about the claims on the website he admitted it was mostly marketing hype that needed to be dumped since they couldn't address half the segments they claimed superiority in.
10. and the number 10 reason is....VP of sales wanders around muttering under his breath....this company is fucked, all fucked up, too many problems, too many challenges, I gotta tell, we're fucked. Let's get out of here.!!!
Nomoredemo 12/4/2012 | 10:01:29 PM
re: The Telltale Sign When they start asking you when you send them an email to send it also on their Hotmail account!
lowbandwit 12/4/2012 | 10:01:23 PM
re: The Telltale Sign Companies like Convergent Communications. They've been defunct for over a year, but they... just... won't... die. Still have a website (granted it say's 'we're bankrupt'), and their name is still on buildings (granted the real estate market is harsh).

Know of others?
Shadowfax 12/4/2012 | 10:01:21 PM
re: The Telltale Sign Entrada Networks. Sync's revenues rescued them. Entrada is still the "parent" company. The SAN over IP router never shipped. I don't think their website has been updated for a YEAR.
Mr. Mutt 12/4/2012 | 10:01:17 PM
re: The Telltale Sign Signs changing here in the Valley mean either:
a) Company moved to new building (check website for new address), happens a lot, or
b) Company has been dead for a LONG time.

I don't know about the rest of the world, but around here I've seen signs for MONTHS from companies that no longer exist or have moved. I think Salira's sign is still on their old Orchard Pkwy address, Ramp Networks and Amber Networks both had signs (Amber's is STILL THERE!) months after being acquired by Nokia.

And all those signs outside the Cisco buildings on Tasman...no wait...just kidding about that one John...your parking lots are still full...
standardsarefun 12/4/2012 | 9:58:02 PM
re: The Telltale Sign When the web site still lists "lastest news" that is 6 months old you have to either conclude:
1. Marketing is on a long holiday
2. They "aren't making news anymore.."
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