The Effect of War on Telecom

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xip42 12/5/2012 | 12:26:31 AM

re: The Effect of War on Telecom What's really happening and what the Bush administration cannot say, is what the real reason for this war is. Iraq could completely and totally disarm, but the US would still attack. Why?

The reason is the Israel-Palastinian conflict/problem.

It is known to people in that region that Saddam offers a pension to the families of suicide bombers. He also rebuilds the family home after Israel comes in and destroys it.

It is this continued infusion of money that continues the suicide attacks and prevents any cooling off period that would allow cooler heads to prevail. No peace plan has a chance unless morons with exlosives strapped to themselves, stop blowing up busses in Israel. That will not end while money (from Saddam, actually from the US via the oil for food program) continues to flow into that region.

Bush is attempting to acheive a wider more far reaching goal. However, i feel he is blinded by wishful thinking.

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jssreenath 12/5/2012 | 12:26:31 AM

re: The Effect of War on Telecom "What could be more hypocritical than for the only country in the world irresponsible and brutal enough to have used nuclear weapons on another country, to attack another country without provocation, sighting that country's as yet unproved nuclear weapons capability as the reason to attack it."
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Next to Lincoln making the decision to go to war in order to save the union in 1861, Truman deciding to use those bombs was the best decision ever made by an American President. Many of us are here because our fathers and grandfathers were not killed in the planned invasion of Japan.
This is off topic, but bears mentioning.

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Garam Masala 12/5/2012 | 12:26:30 AM

re: The Effect of War on Telecom whitta205,
I'm not sure about the nerve gas or VX but the last time I heard, the U.S. post office had a nice supply of Anthrax. You might want to check with them.
Some of Hitler's generals tried to warn us about him but we didn't listen.
Garam

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Demander 12/5/2012 | 12:26:30 AM

re: The Effect of War on Telecom Crapshooter writes:
"Does the U.S. go
around and massacre its own people, or use chemical weapons on
them?"

Well, do you know any Native Americans? One reason you might not is because the US successfully waged a policy of genocide against them. At the time of Columbus there were about 10M native americans on this soil. During the 17th and 18th century huge numbers were wiped out by disease that spread west from the new settlers. What weren't killed that way were massacred, put on the trail of tears, or put into reservations.

But seriously, arguing about who and who isn't a hypocrite just doesn't get anywhere. The issue is whether our current policies the right ones. Hipocracy doesn't negate ones stance, it merely suggests an alternate motivation. We're all hypocrites under the skin.

For those that feel war is justified because Iraq gassed Kurds I higly recommend:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01...

Excellent evidence is given that Iran gassed the Kurds, inintentionally while fighting Iraq, and that the CIA knows it and that the administration is using a policy of disinformation to pursuade the "naive" american public.

Demander

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vwhitta205 12/5/2012 | 12:26:30 AM

re: The Effect of War on Telecom Remember this " Industrial Military" complex allows people like us to express our opinions openly in forums liket this. I know it's an old bag to say this but, if it's such a terrible place run by big corporate monsters why live here?
Really, keep taking your freedom for granted and some day you may lose it?

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steve 12/5/2012 | 12:26:29 AM

re: The Effect of War on Telecom No peace plan has a chance unless morons with exlosives strapped to themselves, stop blowing up busses in Israel.

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Of course it would also be nice if the morons in Israel would stop bull dozing houses, killing innocent citizens (including small children), shutting schools, stealing water, and destroying any semblance of an economy in the west bank.

Of course, when you have your own world class terrorist as Prime Minister, its hard to stop.

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rationalMind 12/5/2012 | 12:26:29 AM

re: The Effect of War on Telecom skeptic said:
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A country who was part of a set of countries
who felt no conscience about terror-bombing
enemy cities with conventional weapons, but
somehow finds a deep moral revulsion to the
american use of two nuclear weapons. Fire-bombing
cities was "ok" but somehow nuclear weapons
were wrong.
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Using others atrocities to justify your own doesnt seem to be a very good line of argument, JMHO.

skeptic said:
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A country that would sell nuclear reactors and
fuel reprocessing equipment to Iran which any
thinking person knows they use as the basis for
a nuclear weapons program.
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Btw, significant parts of Iraq's chemical weapons program were acquired from the US. In fact, during the Iran-Iraq war the US actually gave Iraq satellite images and attack coordinates which it knew Iraq would use to unleash chemical weapons on Iran.

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Garam Masala 12/5/2012 | 12:26:28 AM

re: The Effect of War on Telecom balto,
It is always better to laugh :)
The hut is a little dank but the TV reception is great.
Garam

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crapshooter 12/5/2012 | 12:26:28 AM

re: The Effect of War on Telecom Bringing up the U.S.'s atrocities against native Americans is really off topic. If we're willing to look at events prior to the 20th Century, why not deem the Spaniards to be murdering scum because of the Inquisition, or do the Italians because of the Holy Roman Empire. Genocide is prevalent in the annals of many modern countries.

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gea 12/5/2012 | 12:26:27 AM

re: The Effect of War on Telecom "Next to Lincoln making the decision to go to war in order to save the union in 1861, Truman deciding to use those bombs was the best decision ever made by an American President."

And the fact that the A-bomb was dropped on a civilian city, inhabited by not only men but 10s of thousands of women and children means zero in your book I guess. "Best decision ever made by an American President"? You're not exactly a Rhodes Scholar, I take it...

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