re: The Effect of War on TelecomWhat could be more hypocritical than for the only country in the world irresponsible and brutal enough to have used nuclear weapons on another country, to attack another country without provocation, sighting that country's as yet unproved nuclear weapons capability as the reason to attack it. ------------------- Since you asked....
More hypocritical would be a country with delusions of being a world power, but without the will or the means to actually play the role. A country that throws its weight around in isolated and weak portions of the world.
A country who was part of a set of countries who felt no conscience about terror-bombing enemy cities with conventional weapons, but somehow finds a deep moral revulsion to the american use of two nuclear weapons. Fire-bombing cities was "ok" but somehow nuclear weapons were wrong.
A country and a set of people who care deeply about the dead of two japanese cities while they are ignorant of the millions who died in various ways in the "normal course" of the war.
A country that would sell nuclear reactors and fuel reprocessing equipment to Iran which any thinking person knows they use as the basis for a nuclear weapons program.
A country that sold Iraq a nuclear reactor without thinking about the consequences.
re: The Effect of War on TelecomEcho2 writes: "...You people that think diplomacy has done any thing are as naive as a little baby. The only reason that Saddam has even lifted a pinky towards PRETENDING to disarm is because the US amassed 400,000 troops on his doorstep, and THAT IS THE ONLY REASON! ..."
Insisting on inspections with the credible threat of force IS diplomacy, and it IS working. The moment those troops invade is when diplomacy ends. And I remind you, there was little or no resistance into going into Afganistan or the year 2000.
re: The Effect of War on TelecomAt least Germany and Japan were natural countries and not a patchwork quilt sewn together by quasi well meaning Brits...
So pick a scenario - The Kurds and the Turks get into a war over the Kurdish oil fields.....some rogue Iraqi general decides HE wants to be the new president....the sunnis and the shiites go to war...again....al-queda launches numerous attacks against American (and they are ONLY American) "peacekeepers"....sounds like fun so far? I cant recall having any of those issues in Japan and Germany, do you?? But hey, we are pumping oil, (as long as the fields havnt been torched)
With no disrespect to our Iraqi friends, they are only about 50 years away from having lived in mud huts.. The idea that democracy will spring from their hearts is unbelievably naive.
You bring up a good point, but I did say in my last post I spoke about America's use of nukes in an "aggressive" manner. Yes, people have died in experiments at the hands of the U.S., but that could be said for all manner of weapons with all countries. People have also died gruesome deaths constructing bridges and skyscrapers, testing automobiles and factory machinery, etc.
re: The Effect of War on Telecomcrapshooter said: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think there's a slight difference between the U.S. and Iraq having nuclear weapons capabilities. You can say what you want about the U.S., its policies, its government and its current and past presidents, but they are all infinitely more responsible than Saddam. Does the U.S. go around and massacre its own people, or use chemical weapons on them?
The U.S. has used nuclear weapons in aggression exactly twice and that was nearly 60 years ago. Can anyone honestly say that the U.S. is more likely than Saddam to use WMDs?
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I do honestly believe that the US is more likely to use WMDs than any other country in the world. I am really being sincere here and not just saying it to win an argument. Actually the Bush nutcases have planned contingencies where WMDs would be used and that too against countries which do not possess WMDs. In case you think I am smoking pot here is a link http://www.thenation.com/capit...
re: The Effect of War on TelecomThis looks like an interesting read. No time to go through the whole article now, but I will later this evening.
I knew that U.S. doctrine calls for using nukes when WMD's are used against the U.S. or its troops, but I didn't think it calls for the use of nukes when WMD's are only present and not actually used.
re: The Effect of War on TelecomDiplomacy is working? Do tell how. You are allowing a madman to manipulate you. Inspections aren't working, where's the VX gas? Where's the nerve gas? Where's the Anthrax? If Sadaam would just SHOW US this wouldn't have happened. You really believe he has gotten rid of all his weapons, as their decalaration stated in December? So they just threw them all away with no records of where they're at? He's playing you for the fool and you're more than willing to go along for the ride. Gee, maybe if we'd just sat and talked with Hitler he woulda stopped without that pesky war.
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Since you asked....
More hypocritical would be a country with
delusions of being a world power, but without
the will or the means to actually play the
role. A country that throws its weight around
in isolated and weak portions of the world.
A country who was part of a set of countries
who felt no conscience about terror-bombing
enemy cities with conventional weapons, but
somehow finds a deep moral revulsion to the
american use of two nuclear weapons. Fire-bombing
cities was "ok" but somehow nuclear weapons
were wrong.
A country and a set of people who care deeply
about the dead of two japanese cities while
they are ignorant of the millions who died
in various ways in the "normal course" of the
war.
A country that would sell nuclear reactors and
fuel reprocessing equipment to Iran which any
thinking person knows they use as the basis for
a nuclear weapons program.
A country that sold Iraq a nuclear reactor without
thinking about the consequences.