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flanker
flanker
12/4/2012 | 10:48:32 PM
re: Study HighLights Long-Haul Differences
I'll bet someone on these boards can take a swag at some of these costs.

Cost breakdown would vary because you would have costs for each transport node, each OXC node, and each OADM node. Then you need to factor how many transport and access cards are installed, how many are lit, and what type of active amplification is used.

You'll get tagged for network management software.

You'll get billed for engineering, because long haul networks are custom built animals, and their out-of-the factory load-out depend on the ultimate capacity and reach of each node.

Realistically, you also need to calculate import duty, tax, delivery and peripherals like power supply.

And then there's colo and fiber...






perry1961
perry1961
12/4/2012 | 10:48:32 PM
re: Study HighLights Long-Haul Differences
Tellium claims 60-70% savings on Capex and Opex,and the all-optical makers claim even bigger savings.
When the networks are upgraded,the next-gen equipment goes in imo.
It might take a few bottlenecks to get the Telecos spending again though....
PhotonGolf
PhotonGolf
12/4/2012 | 10:48:23 PM
re: Study HighLights Long-Haul Differences

If its that tough ... can someone recommend a cost template?

This seems like an excellent LR article, no??

PG
flanker
flanker
12/4/2012 | 10:48:22 PM
re: Study HighLights Long-Haul Differences
PhotonGolf

Pricing is the last frontier of secrecy in this industry. Nobody wants to admit a) that there are price differences among vendors, and b) that vendors price differently from client to client, depending on the scope of the project, its PR value, the extent of competition, and the possibility of future business.

Some sales engineers build their own models based on certain assumptions and drivers about the initial and ultimate capacity and size of a network.

I know some newtwork architects from Lu, Nt, Vz or T would protest vehemently to this approach, because a multi-node mesh network (eg, Sprint's backbone) is supposed to optimized using some fairly complex statistical equations to optimize minimum distances between points, and the maximum links or spans on the network needed to provide redundancy.

So, there is a trade-off between cost and network robustness.



zweisel
zweisel
12/4/2012 | 10:48:22 PM
re: Study HighLights Long-Haul Differences
No.
PhotonGolf
PhotonGolf
12/4/2012 | 10:48:19 PM
re: Study HighLights Long-Haul Differences

Do you think this is one of the problems facing the industry?

I look back to the deployment of ERP. Early on, there were many articles about companies spending hundreds of millions (even $1B) on ERP and never seeing an ROI or throwing it out and starting over. Their expecataions were unrealistic - often driven by vendor developed ROIs which played to the exec's greed gland.

Then, over time, ERP implementations became somewhat standardized, their returns well defined. That only occurred when there was some consistency in deployment of different solutions and realistic expectation for return.

Maybe this is what will allow carriers to begin making investments again chasing returns that aren't already assured.
flanker
flanker
12/4/2012 | 10:48:12 PM
re: Study HighLights Long-Haul Differences
Then, over time, ERP implementations became somewhat standardized, their returns well defined. That only occurred when there was some consistency in deployment

I'd certainly like to see vendor interoperability.
puddnhead_wilson
puddnhead_wilson
12/4/2012 | 10:47:46 PM
re: Study HighLights Long-Haul Differences
I heartily agree with the earlier, very perceptive comment that what you are seeing is the companies who have a solution to offer right now, offering that solution, and the ones who don't suggesting what they know no one can really offer right now, to encourage dealy while they get their act together.
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