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boozoo 12/4/2012 | 11:17:32 PM
re: Skype Spooks Operators "Skype utilizes community members' resources for this function whereas others have their own boxes"

Aswath, can you please elaborate on how exactly this works?
aswath 12/4/2012 | 11:17:30 PM
re: Skype Spooks Operators Boozoo:

Please take a look at a cryptic explanation provided at http://www.skype.com/skype_p2p... , under the section "Firewall and NAT (Network Address Translation) traversal". A better explanation could be found in places that discuss "RTP relay" (an example is http://corp.deltathree.com/tec... ).

Aswath
voice_of_reason 12/4/2012 | 11:17:27 PM
re: Skype Spooks Operators Wake up and smell the coffee!
People have been doing the exact same thing (and then some) for some time now with MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, ICQ... the list continues.

People still like to pick up the phone and make a call, and until the day these software offer phone to phone calls, they will continue to be a niche market. - not to say that day will not come...

Y
shaggy 12/4/2012 | 11:17:15 PM
re: Skype Spooks Operators anyone ever heard of Net2Phone?

Skype sounds like a free version of Net2phone, which is about exactly what it is worth, given current QoS.

Of course, by now I'm convinced the whole wireless thing is just a huge plot on the part of the carriers to get us used to crappy QoS, so they can roll out VOIP and eliminate the PSTN...

lastmile 12/4/2012 | 11:17:11 PM
re: Skype Spooks Operators "anyone ever heard of Net2Phone?

Skype sounds like a free version of Net2phone, which is about exactly what it is worth, given current QoS."

I wish to disagree. The QoS of Skype is far superior to cell calls and at par with POTS. Skype is free but for a change something free has QoS.

As of now 11/4/03 at 8:45 PM Eastern time Skype has a download number of 2.2 M + in two months since their inception. A large number of people are actually using it and they are happy.

Such large download numbers never featured when Net2Phone and dial-up initially offered their services for free.

Skype is no hype and it certainly is a serious threat to traditional phone service.

Time will tell!

aswath 12/4/2012 | 11:17:09 PM
re: Skype Spooks Operators lastmile:

I have not used Skype. So can you please clarify the discrpency between your experience and the remarks in the original article:

1. You say a large number use Skype. The article says 120,000. Is this number per hour, day, week or month? Is there a statistic available? (I am assuming that this number for voice chat and not IM chat.)
2. You say that the quality is on par with POTS; I think their website says that it is superior; the article says that the next release will offer improved sound quality. Why?

Thanks
Aswath
dljvjbsl 12/4/2012 | 11:17:07 PM
re: Skype Spooks Operators
GǪ it certainly is a serious threat to traditional phone service.


VoIP and IP telephony have been released to the market and have been met with a massive amount of customer indifference. Even the most optimistic projections now say that this technology will not match the sales of traditional TDM systems until 2006. We all have had experience of technologies that are going to reshape the world someday but the forecasted date for that someday always keeps receding into the future. There were forecasts of the crossover for 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 and now it is 2006.

An analysis of how these technologies are being sold will reveal the reason for this lack of customer interest. They are being sold as cost reduction technologies based on the possibilities of using a converged infrastructure. In certain circumstances a company replacing an existing system or starting up a greenfield site may achieve cost reductions by using the same LAN for voice and data. However to accept that possibility today, the customer must purchase a system that is not as feature rich as traditional systems, has lower voice quality, is not as reliable and not as maintainable.

There is very little incentive for any company to prematurely replace an existing TDM system to take advantage of new IP-based features. The few new features that IP telephony boxes are providing such as access to the Internet on digital telephone displays, speech recognition interfaces etc are not critcally important and can just as easily done on modern digital TDM switches. Unified messaging is a typical feature of these IP boxes. It has been available for years on other types of systems but has little interest to customers. Who is going to pay money to have their voice mail and Email in the same mailbox?

One of the chief issues facing product planning in vendor companies is how to encourage customers to switch to IP systems. One tactic employed is to artificially limit the new feature offerings on the TDM products. There is little technological impediment for digital TDM systems to offer the same services as the current IP systems and so this has to be achieved strategically.

IP systems do have the possibility of influencing telephony. However the current set of products and the indifference that customers are showing to them demonstrates that that time has not come.
lastmile 12/4/2012 | 11:16:40 PM
re: Skype Spooks Operators aswath:
Sorry for the delayed response.
I wish to admit that I am not as technically qualified as you and so many members on this board.
What I would like to insist is that you should give Skype a try.
I have used Skype sparingly on broadband as well as dial-up and the quality is great.
Somehow I get the feeling that landline Copper for POTS is just something that the average joe want's to keep because he/she is so used to it.
However many diehard landline users are ditching POTS for a cell phone.
VOIP quality is improving day by day and if someone has a broadband connection to their home in addition to the cell, would that person still keep POTS?
I don't think so.
Incidentally Skype surpassed > 2.2 M downloads and at times there are about 130000 simultaneous users.
I am not sure about the future of this 'free' enterprise but I am impressed with the quality of this service.
LM
lastmile 12/4/2012 | 11:08:04 PM
re: Skype Spooks Operators At the rate of 1 Million downloads per month, Skype continues to remain spooky. Halloween is just about over and the New Year is about to start.
Unfortunately POTS, just like the telegraph and Pay phones will never celebrate many Haloween's or Happy New Year's.
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