re: Siemens Unveils 21CN PartnersJuniper was always going to figure extensively, and a relationship already existed between Siemens and IP Unity, but are there any surprises in there?
How does Allot shape up against the likes of Sandvine and Ellacoya, for example? And is Dorado distinguishing itself in the multivendor EMS market?
re: Siemens Unveils 21CN PartnersLooks like RSTN will also be in at the backend of the LU/JNPR portion of the deal. The are a multitude of RSTN products included in the the LU/JNPR offerings. This bodes well for the RSTN turnaround story. This deal as well as being the embedded 3g partner of LU will be RSTN back into the forefront of the Ethernet market and complete the turnaround.
re: Siemens Unveils 21CN PartnersRemember, that in Cisco's 21C Press release they talked about the CRS as a proposed win only with no detail.
We have heard that months ago Cisco missed required test dates and perhaps, at best some 12,000 would get sold in with Juniper winning as much as 90% in core and edge through Lucent and Seimens.
BT will not comment because it is political and Volpil is still spinning stories. I said this before and I was doubted, now with the Seimens announcement, want to place bets.? Juniper strong buy, Cisco $17
Let me ask you a question. With the increase and expance of IP video and the need to scale Multicast to the Nth degree would you seriously deploy a Juniper box?
Before you answer been where I've been and have factual data on the Multicast SCALABILITY.
I would be Shocked if Cisco didn't walk away with the Core of 21C. Frankly the CRS-1 is the most scaleable product on the planet with capability that will certainly last a decade. A JNPR solution would have to use multiple routers with Multiple inter-system trunks that would drive up cost and operations would be a nightmare for a large new core build-out.
I'm not going to bash Juniper but their architecture is fundamentally flawed on the high side. They can perform fine as a enterprise IP router, (Lacking integrated features of course) but as a new network core? No damn way!
re: Siemens Unveils 21CN Partners> My money is still on Cisco in the Core.
My money is on the BT competitor who can beat BT as this hodgepodge of crap won't impress any customers and they are doing it for 5 times the price the should have. It sure is funny to watch. We have standardized on two vendors (Cisco/Foundry) and honestly speaking I think our shareholders are getting the value just in savings of time our staff used to waste in meetings yet alone pay the Juniporola price or the power bill of the 13KW CRS. There is some business BT does that we are targeting in the not so long term, so keep up the good work!
re: Siemens Unveils 21CN PartnersMy money is on the BT competitor who can beat BT as this hodgepodge of crap won't impress any customers and they are doing it for 5 times the price the should have. It sure is funny to watch. We have standardized on two vendors (Cisco/Foundry) and honestly speaking I think our shareholders are getting the value just in savings of time our staff used to waste in meetings yet alone pay the Juniporola price or the power bill of the 13KW CRS. There is some business BT does that we are targeting in the not so long term, so keep up the good work! --------------------------------------------------
you are saying that cisco/foundry is not crap?
well, good luck with that. my personal experience tells me otherwise. those companies produce products with some of the most unstable sw and firmware i have ever seen. CRS is the only carrier class IP product that cisco has built to date. Juniper and Alcatel routers are much more stable from first hand experience with all of these vendors.
How does Allot shape up against the likes of Sandvine and Ellacoya, for example? And is Dorado distinguishing itself in the multivendor EMS market?