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I would rather trust Iraq's minister of information claims than the CEO of Procket.
for economics, it was more that the company
had to set a single direction that everyone
agreed to....and anyone who didn't agree had
to get out.
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This is clearly an opinion. I was one of the people who was let go. Some of us worked the hardest in our lives for 18 months to deliver the first set of ASICS.The sad thing is that It left a bitter feeling in engineers who do still work at Procket and nobody trusts the Management or is willing to stand up.
Not a formula for success for a startup that has yet to prove out It's business model
Anyhow, what wiley said is totally true about both Graham and ASIC team. Some good people recognized the problem early on, realized it's not something they could fix, and moved on (left the company).
I don't know about 30 trials, and I don't know how serious those trials are. I can't say Caspian's architecture is all that great or new, since it seemed to have borrowed a lot of ATM technology and some MPLS.
It doesn't really matter what you and I have to say about Caspian or Procket. Only customers matter, and time will tell. It doesn't matter if they have the worst team, the worst technology or the worst management. If they start making money, they will get respect. I don't think they will, but who cares.
Peace out.
"What telecom meltdown ? The infidels in the US federal reserve are propogating lies and we will roast their stomachs in hell for that"
"God/Allah/Jesus willing, we will beat Cisco's current stranglehold on the market. We are currently beating them in all carrier and enterprise accounts as I speak"
"There is no company called Cisco nor have I seen any of their criminal products. I now inform you that you are too far from reality."
On the other hand, maybe Bush Jr. can field him to answer questions on the current US economy.
http://www.welovetheiraqiinfor...
Arak
cyber_techy wrote:
So far, Procket has been getting traction with customers. Kruep claims the company is in trials with 20 carriers throughout the world, and it names three customers: NTTPC Communications Inc., NTT/Verio, and PacketExchange.
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I would rather trust Iraq's minister of information claims than the CEO of Procket.
Procket's NPU design seems to be capable of taking up the gauntlet for such a task. Now if they can provide channelized OC-3/OC-12 media adapters with T1/E1 MLPPP, PPPMux, RFC2508/2509/3095/3241 support and SONET/SDH APS at a reasonable price point, we would love to buy 50+ boxes a year.
Contacting someone from Procket marketing though seems a hard task. Maybe the LR message board Tony Li (not sure if that is the real Tony Li) can point me to the right person at Procket.
Arak
* (wait until someone else buys these things for a year or two and prove it in a production network, before I buy them game)
Who helped design the again wonderful junisphere box you tear down? umm... chief scientist tony li.
What makes you think this same shit is going to work now?
4 media adapters per slot.. sounds familiar.
centralized shared memory..sounds familiar.
Building a new OS "from scratch" is such marketing hype it sickens me. this stuff is very hard to do. It will take atleast a couple years to bake out all the nuances and make all the components of this OS play nicely. This is what everyone is excited about?
NPU blah blah blah... Again such marketing hype. Is there a single customer out there really using all the capabilities that these "flexible" processors will deliver "at scale"? NOT!
I would love and am begging LR to conduct another core router test. Unfortunately I don't think procket would even show up.
> Building a new OS "from scratch" is such
> marketing hype it sickens me. this stuff
> is very hard to do. It will take atleast
> a couple years to bake out all the nuances
> and make all the components of this OS play
> nicely. This is what everyone is excited about?
The Internet went from a toy to a real network during the second half of the nineties. Most of the cisco team that did the routing protocols at cisco during the early nineties had either moved out of the industry, or moved to Juniper. During the second half of the nineties there was a new, small team of maybe 10 people at cisco that did cisco's routing protocols (BGP, IS-IS, OSPF and you might also mention FIB). Half of that team went to Redback, half went to Procket.
So the people who implemented and hardened many of the stuff that made the Internet scale from 10k routes to 100k routes, and from 50 routers per AS, to 1000 routers per AS, those guys have taken their expertise to Procket. What makes you think they need "at least a couple of years" to prevent making the same mistakes that were made during the whole of the nineties ? The people who really understood scaling and robustness in routing, they are at Procket, Redback and Juniper.
(Note, I am talking about routing protocol and forwarding software here. I don't know much about hardware, kernel stuff or other stuff).