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dnewman 12/4/2012 | 8:26:26 PM
re: Nortel Pushes Optical Ethernet Some of the CSCO line cards do block. For example, the new 16-port GE card blocks at loads above 10 ports.

Dunno if it's still true but there used to be a 16 x 100Base-T module that blocked above 12 ports.

Regards,
David Newman
Network Test
gladysnight 12/4/2012 | 8:26:22 PM
re: Nortel Pushes Optical Ethernet "Nortel was already waaaaaay late here, and needed at least a placeholder. They did say boxes with faster backplanes are on the drawing board."
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Yeah, and they said they'd be able to provide a complete "end-to-end" solution using xDSL, too.

Is this new switch on the same drawing-board?
What are they telling their xDSL customers now? DO they have any? (I assume there must be some, in sub-saharan africa somewhere . . .) Is it the same thing they'll be telling the buyers of this switch in 18 months time?

Anyone who buys based on marketectures deserves what they get, which is, typically, shafted.

Not saying the new switch doesn't have some applications, not saying anything about any of NT's products, just making the observation.

Buy what you need based on what is demonstrable now. The future is uncertain, just ask any CSCO, LU, or NT shareholder.
Belzebutt 12/4/2012 | 8:26:22 PM
re: Nortel Pushes Optical Ethernet "Who's making the assumptions here? In fact Nortel does not have 256 Gbit/s of capacity for the Passport 8600. In fact, they only announced a 128 Gbit/s backplane this past week."

That's why I said "IF" you had one :) I was just referring to your mention of a future 256 Gbit/s fabric.

"Because its competitors sell switches that don't block."

Didn't you say Cisco sells _cards_ that can't even be fully used without blocking?

"Performance limits imposed by design are never a good thing."

Let me just reiterate what I said before: The 8600 was never _designed_ to support 24 10G ports. It's simply physically possible to stick up to 24 10GE ports in it. The chassis supports up to 8 slots and in real life, for most customers, these slots will have lower-capacity cards. Anyway, I doubt you'd even be able to use these 10G cards without the new fabric.

kbmedia1 12/4/2012 | 8:26:19 PM
re: Nortel Pushes Optical Ethernet "Yeah, and they said they'd be able to provide a complete "end-to-end" solution using xDSL, too."

Nortel has just "caned" the entire xDSL and access product line. No more UEIMAS or UE900, no more IAD's say goodbye to Sonoma. With that they laid off over 700 emplyees that were responsible for that PLM.
mcasaes 12/4/2012 | 8:26:04 PM
re: Nortel Pushes Optical Ethernet I have not seen any news on the Sonoma IAD line from Nortel, I guess you mean cisco, that just killed their IADs (HyNEX, bought last year).
http://www.nwfusion.com/edge/c...

wildcard 12/4/2012 | 8:26:02 PM
re: Nortel Pushes Optical Ethernet
KB

Neutron Bomb Management just kills all the people doesnGÇÖt hurt the intellectual property. Its called getting to a healthy bottom line. At what cost, well that will surely be interesting.

wildcard 12/4/2012 | 8:26:02 PM
re: Nortel Pushes Optical Ethernet
KB

Neutron Bomb Management just kills all the people doesnGÇÖt hurt the intellectual property. Its called getting to a healthy bottom line. At what cost, well that will surely be interesting.

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