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BobbyMax 12/4/2012 | 9:18:47 PM
re: No VOIP for Panama It is well known that VoIP cannot provide tolll quality service. Some companies like Cisco, with no experience, in voice telephony service. The UIS VoIP equipment vendors have been targeting third world countries such as India, China, have been to sell their VoIP equipment.

The reson that the US regulators have not banned the VoIP service in the US because it hurt business abroad. They want the US companies to go outside and sell as much as they can. I am positive will fireback soner or later.

Packet Man 12/4/2012 | 9:18:45 PM
re: No VOIP for Panama I can see why LR posted an article dedicated to you, being the wingnut you are.

Your comment:
"It is well known that VoIP cannot provide tolll quality service."

My comment:
"You are either technically ignorant or have some other self serving agenda."

As posted Nov 18 on the WWW:
http://www2.cdn-news.com/scrip...

Here is a sample of the article:
RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK, NORTH.CAROLINA--Nortel Networks
(NYSE:NT)(TSX:NT) announced today that TELUS, one of Canada's
largest telecommunications companies, is migrating its national
circuit-based long distance network traffic to a packet-based
network with Nortel Networks voice over IP (VoIP) equipment.

At the heart of TELUS' new packet-based national voice solution
are Nortel Networks Succession Communication Server 2000
softswitches and Nortel Networks Passport Packet Voice Gateways
(PVG). TELUS' national VoIP network includes voice gateways
deployed at 11 major locations across Canada, enabling voice
traffic to be carried on TELUS' national high-speed IP backbone
with carrier grade voice quality.


My comment:
Do you honestly think that these major carriers all over the world would deploy this is it did not work?

Don't get me started. Arrrgggghhh

Packet Man
broadbandboy 12/4/2012 | 9:18:45 PM
re: No VOIP for Panama "At the heart of TELUS' new packet-based national voice solution are Nortel Networks Succession Communication Server 2000 softswitches and Nortel Networks Passport Packet Voice Gateways(PVG)."

Packet Man wrote: "My comment: Do you honestly think that these major carriers all over the world would deploy this is it did not work?"

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My comment: How many of you people are aware that the Passport is an ATM switch? What does that say about Telus' confidence in VoIP?

BBboy

sgan201 12/4/2012 | 9:18:44 PM
re: No VOIP for Panama Hi Packetman,
Nortel Passport only do Voice over ATM now...
Nortel promised that Passport will do VoIP some time in the future...
photon_mon 12/4/2012 | 9:18:43 PM
re: No VOIP for Panama I'm not sure if there is a contradiction.

It seems very typical that a Canadian carrier
would - true to form - buy from a Canadian
equipment provider (let's keep those loonies
flying in tight formation, eh?). Also not
unusual to have a legacy ATM core (hence the
Nortel Passport). Finally, I can't see them
ignoring the eventuality of VOIP. Seems like the
usual progression. Am I off-base?

As far as Panama goes, I believe that - for
obvious reasons in that neck of the world -
they are understandably suspicious of "packets".

capolite 12/4/2012 | 9:18:42 PM
re: No VOIP for Panama
LR editors wrote an article about your posts?
We can debate technical ignorance if we can decipher the point of your post. The cracked grammar and mis-spellings combined with the sweeping generalizations leave whatever point you are attempting to make unstated.
lucifer 12/4/2012 | 9:18:40 PM
re: No VOIP for Panama VoIP can provide toll-quality voice; it's just very difficult to engineer the IP backbone without using ATM to provide QoS and connection restoration...

I don't know what Telus is actually using but I do know the following:

1. Passport 15K is multiservice. ATM and MPLS NNI.
2. The Packet Voice Gateway supports VoATM as well as VoIPoATM, with and VoIP (over GigE)promised "real-soon, really!"

My guess -- Telus is hedging their bets, marketing VoIP (because Cisco cannot be wrong, can they???) and using ATM as the Layer 2 so they can actually build and operate a quality service.

What does have to do with a small poor country that has outrageously high international voice tariffs and an antedeluvian attitude to regulation...

Lucifer
gea 12/4/2012 | 9:18:38 PM
re: No VOIP for Panama Booby...
If I thought you were not very nearly a negativity Robot, I'd almost think you were imitating me imitating YOU! With this post you have sunk to new lows, and you sound like a parody of yourself.

Of course VoIP can provide toll quality service. It's actually used intra-company by many big compaines. It's highly likely you've used it many times and don't know it.

By the way, we never heard your response to your article..YOU'RE FAMOUS! And, I see, still "number 1" on most people's hit parade list!...(oh yeah, before I forget let me give you a 1 too, not that it matters anymore.)
flanker 12/4/2012 | 9:18:38 PM
re: No VOIP for Panama a) It makes a lot of sense to ban VOIP. It protects the franchise of companies that pay *hard cash* for a voice concession.

b) you don't need ATM for toll grade voice service over VOIP. You can run toll grade VOIP over Cisco routers, but you need to provision enough bandwidth and you need to own the network equipment end-to-end. VOIP falls apart when you hand off to third party IP networks without their own QOS.


rjmcmahon 12/4/2012 | 9:18:37 PM
re: No VOIP for Panama It makes a lot of sense to ban VOIP. It protects the franchise of companies that pay *hard cash* for a voice concession.
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And exactly why should a voice concessionaire be protected?
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