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deepciscothroat 12/4/2012 | 10:02:48 PM
re: Megisto: Trialing in Tuscany? No proof. No facts. No POs
Politi is another blowhard
spc_rayella 12/4/2012 | 10:02:44 PM
re: Megisto: Trialing in Tuscany? Who cares? Megisto's competitors care, I am sure. Incumbent systems suppliers care. Mobile operators care. It would be a bit strange if they didn't care about service trials of new hardware.

No proof? That's right.

No facts? What are you saying? The fish was excellent, Megisto has raised that money, and the fact is that a co-founder of a mobile hardware company that is interesting a lot of folk - including you - has said this stuff. If it's BS then Ms Politi and Megisto will be discredited.

No POs? That's right. That's what she said.

I see from previous posts that you're a major fan of Tahoe and have a big downer on Megisto. But as you have also pointed out before, there are no purchase orders in the door there, either.

Relax, ciscowireless, why are you so uptight?
deepciscothroat 12/4/2012 | 10:02:40 PM
re: Megisto: Trialing in Tuscany? Ray, instead of goosing around startups, you might spend some real time analyzing and commenting on the real issues in this industry

The biggest Mobile Internet company in the U.S. is Openwave and they are, sadly, falling apart.

How about some time and attention on them?

yours, cw
deepciscothroat 12/4/2012 | 10:02:40 PM
re: Megisto: Trialing in Tuscany? Well Ray to be honest I am no strong fan of anyone except Cisco. I can't tell the difference between any of the startups since we do not see them strongly in any account

However, since you are supposed to be a journalist, it's a shame that you take sides and drink the koolaid (or eat the fish) so easily.

Customers. PO. Real Traction. Everything is just gossip and innuendo.
noitall 12/4/2012 | 10:02:06 PM
re: Megisto: Trialing in Tuscany? I for one hope these guys win this and the three other operators they are pursuing.
wirelessexpert 12/4/2012 | 10:01:43 PM
re: Megisto: Trialing in Tuscany? Tahoe Networks has already announced that they are letting go off people, why too much hype with no real substance. Basically, they have not received customer traction.

One of the vendors mentioned above are in the same position, if one major customer does not come through, it might not fare well.
gigeguy 12/4/2012 | 10:01:38 PM
re: Megisto: Trialing in Tuscany? I think cw must have some Tahoe stock ... how else do you explain his blind devotion?

I welcome Tahoe to be as forthright with Unstrung about the company and product status as Megisto obviously is. We've all heard the hype ... let's get some real information on the table from a company exec.
wiredgenius 12/4/2012 | 10:01:33 PM
re: Megisto: Trialing in Tuscany? You guys are too funny and have been played like a violin. Travel around to some of the carriers we battled them in and you will get the true story
(I think it's real)

Walking into the unstrung orifices in London and buying lunch. That's not forthright, that's spin

Agreed, with gige --unstrung should go to Tahoe and get the real scoop
noitall 12/4/2012 | 10:01:08 PM
re: Megisto: Trialing in Tuscany? Why doesn't Unstrung do a bakeoff between Tahoe, Megisto and the others? Then we'll all know who's hype and who's for real.
spc_King 12/4/2012 | 10:01:07 PM
re: Megisto: Trialing in Tuscany? A meaningful bakeoff would require SGSNs from each of the big vendors to test interop on Gn/Gp side and SGSNs don't come cheap! Not to mention Handsets (or simulators), HLRs and then the host of different Routers on the Gi side.

Megisto tested their GGSN with a Dutch operator to verify interop with Ericsson's SGSNs (To Eri's great dismay :-) But, I recon it costs a bundle to set up - we're not talking off the shelf equipment here.
I doubt they were able to test the Mobile IP roaming part though (are there any dualmode WLAN/GPRS terminals out there to test with?)

A bakeoff with Taho's GGSN could be interesting. Where do you connect an ethernet cable into a piece of paper :-)

In my humble opinion none of the GGSN startups have any killer features setting them apart from what the GGSNs from the 'MEN' (Moto, Eri, Nokia) or Cisco or Nortel can do.

Why should wireless operators bother with these startups other than to use them to knock the price down from their preferred vendors??

By the way: There is a rumour Nokia is looking to buy a GGSN vendor (Their in house one is based on a LAN switch and not very powerful and maybe their deal as a Cisco GGSN reseller ain't very profitable). Is that why they are buying up stock in RedBack? (bet the X-redback-now-Tahoe people wish they didn't leave so soon :-)

Any good gossip, anyone?!

/X-Eri

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