re: MCI Vouches for Nortel's VOIPNice dljvjbsl! This LR poster doesn't bring much to the conversation. I agree that the term softswitch is a bit misleading. Also, the PVG is an ATM switch with DSP cards for AAL2 and AAL5 VoP, not a purpose built VoIP gateway.
But in the end, Nortel is winning some account with THEIR next generation (we can all argue till the wee hours about what constitutes true next gen) solutions. Many of the legacy voice vendor guys have come up with nice marketing terms for their hybrid/half step to next gen approaches: ENGINE, SURPAS, Succession, etc. Any serious person at the next gen vendors tell you that Nortel is their biggest competitor.
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re: MCI Vouches for Nortel's VOIPI am bit skeptical of the claim that Nortel is the biggest competitor of next-gen switches. Anyone buying a next-gen product is not likely to be an incumbent RBOC with legacy Class 5 switches in their network.
re: MCI Vouches for Nortel's VOIPNice dljvjbsl! This LR poster doesn't bring much to the conversation.
Thanks.
I agree that the term softswitch is a bit misleading. Also, the PVG is an ATM switch with DSP cards for AAL2 and AAL5 VoP, not a purpose built VoIP gateway.
Yeah, it's like a Santera, oops, excuse me, Tekelec box except with a much bigger footprint. It's a pure ATM switch that has VoIP bolted on as an afterthought. It's also a pretty substantial mess of equipment if you're using it in a VoIP application.
But in the end, Nortel is winning some account with THEIR next generation (we can all argue till the wee hours about what constitutes true next gen) solutions. Many of the legacy voice vendor guys have come up with nice marketing terms for their hybrid/half step to next gen approaches: ENGINE, SURPAS, Succession, etc. Any serious person at the next gen vendors tell you that Nortel is their biggest competitor.
You think? I'd be curious to see what terms Nortel gave to MCI on that deal. Do you think Nortel will see any cash from it in the next 3 years? Anybody can win a deal with a bankrupt company if they give enough credit.
re: MCI Vouches for Nortel's VOIPSonus will certainly tell you that Nortel is their chief competitor. The real substaintial market for VoIP is with IXCs, RBOCs, and incumbents worldwide and the installed legacy voice switch vendors are the best positioned to win that business as migration is key. Some are better than others: Nortel, Ericsson, and now more recently, Siemens are serious players, while Alcatel and Lucent have no cohesive strategy to pursue VoIP.
Joe CLEC and the latest media dalring, Vonage, will not amount to much for voice capex.
For greenfield apps and new services with incumbent telcos, the next gen players have a better chance.
------------------------------------------------- I am bit skeptical of the claim that Nortel is the biggest competitor of next-gen switches. Anyone buying a next-gen product is not likely to be an incumbent RBOC with legacy Class 5 switches in their network.
re: MCI Vouches for Nortel's VOIPThere seems to be something fishy with that deal. Nortel said their was an RFP in Decemeber and 3 months later there are 36 gateways deployed???? I'd bet that decisions were made in advance of this RFP.
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ You think? I'd be curious to see what terms Nortel gave to MCI on that deal. Do you think Nortel will see any cash from it in the next 3 years? Anybody can win a deal with a bankrupt company if they give enough credit.
re: MCI Vouches for Nortel's VOIPConsultant wrote:
"A softswitch uses a distributed architecture that includes 1. Media gateways. 2. Call controller. 3. Class 5 features platform. 4. Signalling platform. "
Those who can't------consultant"
I rest my case. Some people convict themselves by the stupidity of their own comments.