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Daveman 12/4/2012 | 7:26:58 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off I know many ex-Lucent staff who were FMP'd in the last 12 months. I don't know what you're talking about but they are sure that Lucent has done some significant cutting... Didn't Henry say at the last conference call that the force reduction will be complete this January. The numbers published were that at the end of Phase II Lucent would have 65,000 employees. This is down from 120,000+.... So what exactly are you talking about?
manoflalambda 12/4/2012 | 7:26:58 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off The real problem with Lucent is being overstaffed to the tune of about 30%. Lucent has not yet implemented the workforce reduction it announced earlier. It s inability to reduce the workforce is cosing almost a billion dollars year.

Hmmm. Currently 77000 people (9/30 iirc). Target 57-62000 (prob includes Agere and OFS-Fitel off role at that time). Cuts in Indian Hill and elsewhere recently.

Harvey, what would your target number be?

Salute,
Manoflalambda
optigirl 12/4/2012 | 7:26:58 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off One of the things that might happen here is that Lucent sells the stuff at cost, which locks other companies out of the account and then turns around and sticks it to the customers on servicing revenues. (See IBM)

You don't have to be the best, just the biggest. It also helps when you are part of the ol' boy network and everyone has known each other for years. LU and NT know the operations side of the house and since there is such a large embedded base anyway, they will get a seat at the bargaining table no matter what.

Combine all of this with lowered expectations, firing tens of thousands of employees and you can do it the Lucent way....


}:-(
gea 12/4/2012 | 7:26:57 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off Harvey! (Or should I say "Gollum"?)
You who are so glum, and seeing crappy technology and conspiracies everywhere...you really believe that Lucent is somehow the hands-down winner in terms of ALL telecom technology?

Sorry dude...I've had my hands on the OLS-40G, as well as the Ciena 1600/SENTRY as well as the Pirelli/Cisco stuff and more. I'll grant that the OLS-40G is old, but it was no more reliable than anybody else's gear. In addition, while doing a field trial of the OLS 40G in conjunction with an RBOC, 3 engineers tried to correctly pad the optical channels using the "Smart Pad" feature, and none of them were succesful. The OC-48 wavelengths had shitty BERs after other channels dropped out. So it never really worked great in the first place.
None of the other vendors I've seen had that problem.

Ya' know, Harvey...you really sound like quite a kook. Do you really think you are doing your company a favor by bashing everyone else's gear like you do? And then praise Lucent in a way that has no qualifications or exceptions technology-wise?
manoflalambda 12/4/2012 | 7:26:57 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off Oops :)

77000 excludes Agere but includes OFS-Fitel.
(See the PDFs at Lucent.com,
http://www.lucent.com/investor... )

Salute,
Manoflalambda
optigirl 12/4/2012 | 7:26:55 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off I have to wonder if Harvey is just someone who sits around all day writing up semi-literate posts just to create chatter.

It's not like he ever contributes anything meaningful or intelligent and he never responds to anything anyone says to him.

Is he a LR plant just to get people posting???

Inquiring minds wanna know!!!

:-)

flanker 12/4/2012 | 7:26:55 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off You didn't get a comment from us last week and you're not going to get one this week, either," said Wendy Zajack, a Lucent spokeswoman.


She's definitely a graduate of Dale Carnegie's <font color="#FF0080" face="Verdana">HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AD INFLUENCE PEOPLE
</font>
three day mega-course.





Litewave 12/4/2012 | 7:26:51 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off Author: optigirl
[About Harvey Mudd]
...It's not like he ever contributes anything meaningful or intelligent and he never responds to anything anyone says to him...


Too true!

If hes not a plant, hes got the thickest skin of anyone I've experienced!

nag_e_n 12/4/2012 | 7:26:48 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off Can anybody tell me if the optical gears does support the services like IP.I want to know awhat is optical Ethernet?
Confucius 12/4/2012 | 7:26:47 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off If hes not a plant, hes got the thickest skin of anyone I've experienced!

Skull. Not skin.

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