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WolfLarsen 12/4/2012 | 7:27:06 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off Nope, false alarm ....
HarveyMudd 12/4/2012 | 7:27:05 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off It is an absolute fact that Lucent has the most reliable Telecom gear that can address the legacy equipment and the most modern systems that anyone can ecpect.

Thre is no other vendor that even comes closer to the richness and fulness of the Lucent Gear. This is true of any segment of the telecom service provider (e.g., Optical gear, Switches, DWDMs, Metro equipment.

The real problem with Lucent is being overstaffed to the tune of about 30%. Lucent has not yet implemented the workforce reduction it announced earlier. It s inability to reduce the workforce is cosing almost a billion dollars year.
prefer_to_lurk 12/4/2012 | 7:27:04 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off "It is an absolute fact that Lucent has the most reliable Telecom gear that can address the legacy equipment and the most modern systems that anyone can ecpect.

Thre is no other vendor that even comes closer to the richness and fulness of the Lucent Gear. This is true of any segment of the telecom service provider (e.g., Optical gear, Switches, DWDMs, Metro equipment."

Really ? Ever hear of a company called Nortel Networks ? How about Alcatel ?

ptl


Belzebutt 12/4/2012 | 7:27:04 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off It is an absolute fact that Lucent has the most reliable Telecom gear that can address the legacy equipment and the most modern systems that anyone can ecpect.

We finally know who Harvey is working for!
opticaltalent 12/4/2012 | 7:27:04 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off
So what do you do for Lucent?
Route495 12/4/2012 | 7:27:03 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off That explains Harvey's spending most of the day surfing on LR. It also explains his bitchin about foreign H1 workers.

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So what do you do for Lucent?
WDMer 12/4/2012 | 7:27:01 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off First, he aint working 4 LU, as he wudnt suggest layoffs as a solution for LU, might be first one to go..!
There is some truth in Harvey's opinoun. However
hard u want, u just cant wish Lucent away.
After massacare at NT and hyped up false marketing
claims by CSCO, LU with its lambda* and metropolis* product family looks much safer and positioned to come out clean in 02.

my $0.02
lu-alum 12/4/2012 | 7:27:00 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off Come on give me a f***ing break. I worked there for quite a while and while it's true that the 5E, the SLC products and low speed sonet gear are extremely reliable, they are also old. In terms of Data gear (where I worked) I can tell you that 80% of what Lucent has is crap. Their DWDM gear pales to companies like Ciena and even lowly Nortel. Their ATM solutions are running on fumes and their recently acquired technology, Nottabit, Chromatis, and Ignitus are largely cancelled or on again off again like the Nottabit router.

As far as traditional gear, Fujitsu kicked their asses in SONET gear and Tellabs ate their lunch in the DACS market. Good for them if they got a deal with Stinger by giving it away, but I've seen that movie and I know how it ends.
optigirl 12/4/2012 | 7:26:59 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off One of the things that might happen here is that Lucent sells the stuff at cost, which locks other companies out of the account and then turns around and sticks it to the customers on servicing revenues. (See IBM)

You don't have to be the best, just the biggest. It also helps when you are part of the ol' boy network and everyone has known each other for years. LU and NT know the operations side of the house and since there is such a large embedded base anyway, they will get a seat at the bargaining table no matter what.

Combine all of this with lowered expectations, firing tens of thousands of employees and you can do it the Lucent way....


}:-(
Daveman 12/4/2012 | 7:26:58 PM
re: Lucent Takes the Gloves Off Lucent hasn't done a lot in the Metro DWDM space yet... but I hear they are coming out with a switch called EON which is the backbone of the unannounced Verizon deal. Scuttle-butt from my sources is that this deal isn't supposed to be announced until March (at some industry show) and the deal is rumored to be 1.8BB... according to the rumors I listen to.

I do hear that the DMX switch is begining to replace a lot of the Cisco 15454 gear due to Network Management problems,,, scaling issues, etc. Lucent seems the under-dog in most the optical networking gear with NT the one to beat. LU thrives in much of the legacy business... Circuit switches, DACs, Sonet muxing, etc. DSL is a strong spot for LU but who is sure where that is going? The DLC business is their's to loose. I can't even begin to think of the numbers of Anymedia Fasts out there... Core ATM is on the outs once again but it seems to have some life - another plus for Lucent.

If LU can become the contender for optical leadership in 2002 and comes out with some strong IP/MPLS products... I'd say LU is a serious top contender... They are a "Show Me" company for now...
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