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BobbyMax 12/4/2012 | 9:26:42 PM
re: Lucent Chops TMX 880 Lucent should not sell TMX 880 either to Cisco or Sycamore. No deal should be made with Cisco because possible pilferage of hardware and software. Sycamore can be given right to sell the product for a fixed yearly fee.

No products should be sold by Lucent except the ones acquired throgh acquisitions.
OEO_mon 12/4/2012 | 9:26:41 PM
re: Lucent Chops TMX 880 Bobby Max says:
Lucent should not sell TMX 880 either to Cisco or Sycamore. No deal should be made with Cisco because possible pilferage of hardware and software.

This is backwards. The hardware is laughable, the architecture uninspired. The software has been worked on incessantly. The original product was barely working (although the Nexabit folks were proud enough of it, it had little innovative content) when Lucent bought the "prototype sold as a product".

Quote 2:No products should be sold by Lucent except the ones acquired throgh acquisitions

.... Which is exactly what this box is. If Lucent wants to slow down the competition enough to gain on them, I would encourage them to try to give this product away to them. By the time a competitor gets this one working, it will be obsolete and Lucent may have a chance of gaining market share with a more inspired offering.

I calls em as I sees em (and saw this one too close-up to be proud of it)

OEO_mon
fleshpeddler 12/4/2012 | 9:26:37 PM
re: Lucent Chops TMX 880
Come on, bottom line is the people that did due diligence on Nexabit in the first place should be in jail.
go_to_the_light 12/4/2012 | 9:26:36 PM
re: Lucent Chops TMX 880
how can lucent say that the legacy<->mpls thing is not going to be "worth it" yet ciena is into it with equip and wavesmith?
porn starr 12/4/2012 | 9:26:35 PM
re: Lucent Chops TMX 880 Lucent's doing the right thing, Ciena seems pretty desperate, they dont know the first thing about MPLS.
greybeard 12/4/2012 | 9:26:33 PM
re: Lucent Chops TMX 880 > Despite discontinuing the TMX 880, which had no
> announced customers, Lucent insists it's still
> in the legacy-to-packet migration hunt. "We
> will continue to invest in MPLS and
> multiservice networks," says spokesman Mike
> Alva.
>
> Specifically, he says Lucent plans to release
> a "next-generation edge product," as yet
> unannounced.

Can anyone explain why their alleged future effort in MPLS (or IP) is going to be any more successful than their past efforts in this space?
seeallwan 12/4/2012 | 9:26:32 PM
re: Lucent Chops TMX 880 Not much to say on the TMX880 except it was a router and always was a router no matter what label they stuck on it. It wasn't designed to be a Multi-Service ATM switch, period. It had serious HW/SW flaws from the beginning, so making it into an ATM switch was a very poor decision by Lucent (INS) management.

When LU canceled the "MSC25000/OZ" switch, they claimed that they sent surveys to it's legacy Cascade customers and they (the customers) came back and said "ATM is dead", we'll deploy IP/MPLS.

The market didn't cancel this box, the lack of experienced Westford management, a weak CTO, lack of vision, politics and the suicidal risks taken to cap further CBX/GX development put them in this position. All appointed by Ken and Janet.

The next agenda for Lucents data segment...OEM or sell, which is it? Stay tuned...

If my sources are even close, I hear Lucents Next-Gen Edge Product is in stealth mode and most likely won't be out for another 1.5 years?
It's another joint development attempt across 3-4 business units in MA/MD/NJ and IL, so the politics alone will squash any hopes of it seeing the light of day?

Anyway, the damage is done in Westford, it's just a wait and see game now.

ivehadit 12/4/2012 | 9:26:28 PM
re: Lucent Chops TMX 880 i agree with seeallwan. tmx880 was a high speed router, and its bad strategy to go head to head with cisco and juniper in that space. lucent tried to market it as an mpls switch, but no one is buying that either. cisco will build next generation mpls networks, with juniper in tow. thats a market given.

i don't believe the stories lucent is selling its atm business. its planning on a new edge box to firm up that offer.
BlueWater66 12/4/2012 | 9:26:20 PM
re: Lucent Chops TMX 880 On the product side, I'm surppised that the INS-Nexabit related products lasted this long.

On the "management" side, I don't understand Pat Russo at all. In a "properly" run company you sometimes have to make cuts. Life at Lucent stinks, so they have to make deep cuts. But- a decent management team does this all at once. After the cuts are made, you tell the remaining employees that they are "special" and get moral back up.

Lucent, on the other hand, is cutting employees every Thursday. Employees are afraid and completely distracted. They aren't productive. Pat Russo emphaized in Business Week that she's going to keep making cuts on a regular on-going basis. If I were on the board, I'd kill her. This is an extreme example of management that doesn't know how to re-size and then re-focus their team......... just like product strategy, employee management requires strategy and focus. Pat is pathetic (just ask any Lucent employee!).
joke 12/4/2012 | 9:26:19 PM
re: Lucent Chops TMX 880 >Come on, bottom line is the people that did due diligence on Nexabit in the first place should be in jail.

We totally agree with you. Look at those people (should be responsible) at http://www.tellium.com/.
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