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seen_the_light 12/4/2012 | 11:16:53 PM
re: Lucent Bags High-End Switch
whatever happened to it?
Belzebutt 12/4/2012 | 7:49:54 PM
re: Lucent Bags High-End Switch I'm surprised the MSC 25000 didn't have these features from the start, no wonder it got canned. More market share for the next Passport, I believe it is already #1 in MSS...
broadbandboy 12/4/2012 | 7:49:53 PM
re: Lucent Bags High-End Switch So Lucent has finally killed the troubled Oz platform, and with it any hope of an upgrade path for all the Cascade 500 and 550s. Wavesmith and Equipe must be popping the Champagne corks about now!

Lets hear from some ex-Robbins Road guys on why they made this 180 degree about face on a product just announced at Supercom?
yomama 12/4/2012 | 7:49:53 PM
re: Lucent Bags High-End Switch Well, the end of an era- Cascade>Ascend>Lucent> Looks like the ATM/Frame Relay cascade switches have run there course, other startups WaveSmith/Equippe will take up the rear..

Too bad, Lucent should of never bought Ascend...Lucent could of not of destroyed the company better even if they planned it..

Metal 12/4/2012 | 7:49:53 PM
re: Lucent Bags High-End Switch The problem with the MSC25000 was nopt its feature set (although it was lacking). The real problem was that the carriers realized that Lucent can't support their own switches anymore.

Take a walk down Robbins Road and you won't see hardly anyone who's been there more than a year or two. These switches are now 4, 5, 6 years old - no one's left who knows how they work. For the most part you have a bunch of very green engineers who are struggling to learn English, let alone understand how the very complex software works.

So it seems safe to assume that Lucent will not be able to recover in this space. Yet if there many thousands of these switches in the field providing strong revenue streams, what are these carriers supposed to do? Eventually they will need to switch to a new vendor.

Gotham and WaveSmith seem to be the closest matches (but is Gotham viable anymore?).
Belzebutt 12/4/2012 | 7:49:53 PM
re: Lucent Bags High-End Switch Was the MSC 25000 the last of the Ascend products?
yomama 12/4/2012 | 7:49:52 PM
re: Lucent Bags High-End Switch Bad news for Westford folks, If I were still there I'd be working on my resume, it does not look good
at all. Someone has to support the installed base of thousands of B-STDX 9000's and CBX-500's installed in the field, maybe I'd be looking to move from Robbins Road to Tech Support...hmmm..then again maybe not...UGLY scene...
_____ 12/4/2012 | 7:49:52 PM
re: Lucent Bags High-End Switch Dios Mio!

LU says they will not comment on the next gen box. Sounds like an after-birth of the Nexabit box with an ATM interface. Seeing that the Nexabit box, when turned on, crashes within 56 seconds. I don't think Nortel has anything to worry about.

My sources tell me the msc 25000 was canned because LU knew it would never see the light of day because it would never work the way LU marketing claimed it would.
yomama 12/4/2012 | 7:49:52 PM
re: Lucent Bags High-End Switch The MSC 25000 must of been the last Ascend product, I know that the GX 550 was originally a Cascade product before Ascend bought them, anyway it's sad, there's nobody left there to make this work, I think it's time roll up robbins road, don't know why they put a new building there?
orange 12/4/2012 | 7:49:47 PM
re: Lucent Bags High-End Switch My insiders knew Oz was cancelled on Monday. What did you expect, all of CSD's management was laid off in August. The Nexabit guys are running the show now, and clearly it came down to Oz or the Nexabit router. Oz never stood a chance despite the fact that Nexabit has yet to deploy anything in a production network. (To the poster who said that the router crashes after 56 seconds, it has improved somewhat, they even have static routing working now!!!) Politics and favoritism rule at Lucent. It gets worse for what's left at Westford, Lucent is currently building an off-shore ATM/FR switching house in India (check out www.iidc.lucent.com and click thru the HR/recruitment links). Given that the executives in charge are the ones who moved CSD's NMS to India, I give Westford 12 months before the entire operation is moved out there. It's a shame, Cascade used to be quite a company.

Yo Harley: the disasterous Amethyst and early Jade releases were Ascend shit, not Cascade's or Lucent's. The software quality is actually much better today than it was 2 years ago. Also there are still some great engineers at Westford, but most of them are trapped waiting for their green cards.

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