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The biggest problem Avici has is that it has been bleeding talent for years and there is no one left to enhance the box...I know because many of my friends were there an have moved on...
It does appear that Avici does have one last spin doctor on staff...well done byteme3
p.s. docs=bullshit like any routers 99.999% availability :]
Avici has no advantage at all. Its an old, tired
product with no particular postives. Avici
has made the rounds of every carrier in the
business at least three times now with the
same product. And they keep getting told
"no" for bunches of reasons.
Their only real customer remains ATT. That
is, not counting fake customer announcements or
wishful thinking on their part.
They have now engaged a partner in nortel where
nobody except the CFO liked the deal and the
sales force is unmotivated to even try to sell
something they know nobody wants. And its not
because of cost. Its because the quality of the
product is poor, Avici support is horrible and
the company as a whole specializes in making
promises they can't keep.
nobody except the CFO liked the deal and the
sales force is unmotivated to even try to sell
something they know nobody wants. And its not
because of cost. Its because the quality of the
product is poor, Avici support is horrible and
the company as a whole specializes in making
promises they can't keep.
coreghost,
You're obviously not an NT insider. :)
>product with no particular postives.
Well, that's an interesting spin. Since avici has been releasing new linecards and software features continuously since our inception, you must be referring to the chassis as the "old" part. Actually we've been introducing new chassis sizes, too, but the architecture of them is similar. But yes you can still run the chassis from 4 years ago with today's newest linecards, but isn't that a good thing?
Or maybe you're referring to the fabric design, in that it's still toroidal? We have increased the speed of it for higher capacity cards, but you're right it still supports the older speed too. The funny thing is avici considers that one of their big advantages: you don't have to throw out the older linecards when you buy new capacity ones. They can work in the same system. We don't think replacing the whole box every 24 months is the right approach for a carrier. How is that wrong?
If you think companies don't lose people and hire other people then you are naive. Since we continue to release new linecards and software features, we seem to have handled the downturn well. Avici, like every vendor out there, had layoffs during the lean years, which no one wanted. It is a horrible, horrible experience for all involved. But we have still been able to advance hardware and software even during the bad times, and have been hiring for the upturn since.
No one is irreplaceable - even Tony Li. :)
...and do us all a favor and buy more banners from LR...it's better for your image...then byteme2 :]
See you at lunch...
Gee, you attack his router and he defends them point-by-point, and then you the accuse him of advertising.
Is it a requirement of the message board that all criticisms of products be one-sided? That would be very depressing! Maybe they can call it the "Lightreading Shootout" section.
Tony, please chime in and give credit to the other folks where credit is due.
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This one has been bugging me and I can now set the record straight. Yes, there are many other folks who deserve far more credit and publicity than I do. Your list above, plus some other names like Oran, Chiappa, and Halpern should be included. The list is quite long. The visibility that has been thrust upon me is neither deserved nor welcome and has simply been a convenient tool for others to further their own ends.
I am simply one honest and stubborn man trying to help build the Internet. My value is not in any particular technical area but in the fact that I am a perfectionist, trying to do a good job for my customers and my company. I share the original vision of the Internet as THE communcations infrastructure for the forseeable future and I do what I can to move the Internet forward. Unlike many others in the industry, I am unwilling to lead my customers down the garden path to make a sale and from that, I believe, I have a long standing relationship with Tier 1 network engineers.
To those that feel that there is some competition as to who is the "coolest", I'll point out that there is no real competition. Only one person on the above list is also an international name in rock n' roll. When it comes to cool, I'm not even in the running.
Tony