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byteme3 12/5/2012 | 2:33:14 AM
re: Li Quits Procket >What I thought was funny was the "nail in the >coffin" comment from Avici. Isn't Avici a power >consuming, full rack, under featured, under >dense, non modular, over priced system that >falls thru floors? Ooops, maybe I am I talking >about the HFR.
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Obviously you are a Juniper or Procket employee, and I will admit I work at Avici and feel compelled to correct your lack of knowledge. Procket does not make their docs public, so it is hard to know what they really do/don't do, so all I can go on is their data-sheets.

1) The Avici router consumes less power than the T640, M160, 12x00 or 8812 per ft. Per Gb the avici drawws less power than the m160, T640, and 12400, but on par with the 12800. the 8812 does best per Gb.
2) Avici has a quarter-rack mountable chassis (QSR), a half-rack mountable chassis (SSR), and a full 7-foot self-standing chassis (TSR). Juniper does not have a quarter-rack 192c-capable chassis. From what I can tell about procket, they do have an 8801 chassis which looks small, but since it has no redundancy I don't see how it's more than a lab system.
3) Obviously Avici has fewer features than Cisco or Juniper, as those companies build edge routers as well. But Avici only focuses on core features, and I think they do them very well.
4) Density? Avici's on par with the T-640 and blows away the 12816, but it's not about density anymore - it's about system scaling - getting rid of the "# of slots" limitation. None of those guys have shown that ability, whereas Avici has had it for years.
5) Non-modular? You must be behind a bit. Their architecture is very modular, but they don't let you upgrade a single software process as Procket claims to, if that's what you mean. Avici does let you do hitless software upgrades, though. (which Cisco and Juniper don't... yet) For what it's worth, I also think Procket's idea of per-process versioning is a horrible idea. It's virtually impossible to test/support all permutations thoroughly.
6) Over-priced? It's pricing is equal to Cisco/Juniper. (slightly less/more depending on config, as everyone is)
7) Falls through floors? That has actually never happened, although I think the rumor started on LR. For the record, the T640 and 8812 weigh the same as the Avici.
echo2 12/5/2012 | 2:33:14 AM
re: Li Quits Procket
Although the waste of bandwidth on the outsourcing may pass it, I think the current record is war, which ran for 2 months. Sorry to disapoint you guys that think Tony Li is God, or that Procket is that significant, but this thread wont touch any records, and is mostly already dead:

http://www.lightreading.com/bo...


My options will make me rich!
Echo2
change_is_good 12/5/2012 | 2:33:10 AM
re: Li Quits Procket dude, that avci box surely has its advantages over csco and jnpr.

too bad you can only sell $11M for Q4 and $39M for an entire year.

competing against avci is like betting if the sun is going to come up tomorrow. it's a no-brainer.
IP Observer 12/5/2012 | 2:33:07 AM
re: Li Quits Procket Actually rumor about Avici falling through floors was started by Juniper sales/SEs not LR although they chose to report it. I heard it often enough. It makes you wonder what other crap they're spreading. I'm ok with the occasional FUD since it is expected, but when it is an outright lie, it is pathetic.
Juniper is just as bad as Cisco ever us and they use same tactics.
answeris42 12/5/2012 | 2:33:07 AM
re: Li Quits Procket "BobbyMax's posts generate the most replies ........ any thread with maximim BM posts will invariably be the longest thread"

BM sounds like he has an ego just like Tony Li's --- hmmm I wonder.... maybe BM really stands for bowel movement.
bobbbymax 12/5/2012 | 2:33:04 AM
re: Li Quits Procket BM sounds like he has an ego just like Tony Li's --- hmmm I wonder.... maybe BM really stands for bowel movement.

AGAIN

bobbbymax != BobbyMax

;-)
answeris42 12/5/2012 | 2:33:02 AM
re: Li Quits Procket And Mark Twain = Sam Clemens..

BTW folks the coyote and signmeup have great insight into what's really happening at Procket.
grunt 12/5/2012 | 2:33:02 AM
re: Li Quits Procket Does anyone know when Mr. Li is due back, and has anyone verified the email existed?
I understand that Mr. Li has resigned (even in company meetings) and changed his mind later. This could easily happen again, so conjecture on his leaving may be quite pre-mature.
grunt 12/5/2012 | 2:33:02 AM
re: Li Quits Procket Does anyone know when Mr. Li is due back, and has anyone verified the email existed?
I understand that Mr. Li has resigned (even in company meetings) and changed his mind later. This could easily happen again, so conjecture on his leaving may be quite pre-mature.
Scott Raynovich 12/5/2012 | 2:32:56 AM
re: Li Quits Procket Tony,

If you're out there... please contact us at [email protected]

I have a quick question...

--Scott
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