Juniper Targets Carrier Services

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gigeguy 12/4/2012 | 9:15:32 PM

re: Juniper Targets Carrier Services A router is a router is a router, not an ATM switch.

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tsat 12/4/2012 | 9:15:30 PM

re: Juniper Targets Carrier Services Hmmm.. don't tell that to the numerous Multiservice Switch vendors putting routing on
ATM swiches.

Lipstick on a Pig? you belong here:
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Who rated this fool a "5"?

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SweetOldWorld 12/4/2012 | 9:15:29 PM

re: Juniper Targets Carrier Services Here's the Juniper shtick (from their press release on MINT):

"MINT outlines a holistic approach for revitalizing ..."

Sounds like the intro to some herbal remedy for skin therapy :-)

-s

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edgehead 12/4/2012 | 9:15:29 PM

re: Juniper Targets Carrier Services None of Juniper's devices are equipped to deliver the services that people are actually paying for (IPSec VPNs, managed firewalls, secure remote access). The reason they haven't already incorporated this functionality (which isn't actually "new") is because their devices can't scale or perform those services at anything approaching wire-speed. Sprint, Equant, Qwest, NTT, C&W wouldn't be using an IP Service Switch if they could.

MPLS is fine, but most remote sites and no mobile workers cannot take advantage of it. And who is using IPv6? Best of luck on the service BS Juniper

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metroshark 12/4/2012 | 9:15:28 PM

re: Juniper Targets Carrier Services Reading through this article, it is not clear when Juniper will deliver these new features. In the past, Juniper has been pretty consistent about not pre-announcing products and features (unlike Cisco, for example), are they changing their tune? Why?

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buliwyf 12/4/2012 | 9:15:26 PM

re: Juniper Targets Carrier Services JNPR is doomed. Wake up. As a corporate they will be squeezed mercilessly. As a product .... they have no support from the CFO's who make decisions now, CSCO does. Wake up, CTO's dont make decisons anymore.Juniper was a great (MAYBE THE BEST AND MOST RESPECTED) ip/svcs company around, they will survive (in some form) but as an investment... right.

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Kevin Mitchell 12/4/2012 | 9:15:25 PM

re: Juniper Targets Carrier Services JNPR is changing their tune because the UNSP people are in charge of marketing now. UNSP was always a better marcomm shop. JNPR didn't NEED marketing in the beginning as their stock price generated news everyday and they focused on building solid routers.

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xbar 12/4/2012 | 9:15:11 PM

re: Juniper Targets Carrier Services Both JNPR M and ERX series need convoluted architectural patches to support new requirements from major carriers. Q-PIC is another one (if it becomes reality) in a list of other service PICs with little success (tunneling, IPSEC, etc). In any case, its performance and features will not match Laurel and CSCO.

JNPR is doomed not because of the people working there (they are very bright), but because of the lack of architectural scalability. A good example is the continous chassis churn and forklift upgrades U need each year.

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xbar 12/4/2012 | 9:15:10 PM

re: Juniper Targets Carrier Services 768x8=4096

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tspoon 12/4/2012 | 9:15:02 PM

re: Juniper Targets Carrier Services While the MINT marketing plan shows JNPR's desire to look like a new integrated company after the Unisphere deal, it will take much more than talk to show that the spin is real. We now see a company with more to sell, and a company that needs to convince the service Providers and investment community that it is a warmer, more capable company. If you look at servicecreation.com you will find the Service Creation Community website. You will see that JNPR barrowed some great ideas from this group and also from net.com and others. This community has a core of the who's who in data and telecommunications as well as SP's in its membership, but no signs of JNPR Yet. If JNPR is going to do more than talk they must actually show that they are players in such organizations. Creative collaboration and turning up new profitable services for SP's requires committment, not talk.

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