Juniper Nabs Unisphere for $740M

COMMENTS

Newest First | Oldest First | Threaded View

<< < Page 4 / 4

photonicGuru 12/4/2012 | 10:21:24 PM

re: Juniper Nabs Unisphere for $740M I have also read the comments from scott as you are ...the only difference of my eyes...scott is taking about the current customer base ...and i was mentioning in my last post about getting the customer base.

Unisphere has the same customer base as Juniper...but instead of JNPR getting significant traction in edge router market Unisphere was managed to undercut deal with same customer...doesn't sound interesting to many Analyst now i suppose.

I titled my post as "bundle of sticks" not "catalytic chemistry" if you can understand the line of the argument.

Enjoy!!

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

thephotonkid 12/4/2012 | 10:21:23 PM

re: Juniper Nabs Unisphere for $740M Seriously, a cheapo T-1/Ethernet router with full complement of routing protocols, NAT, firewall, DHCP and web/ssh/telnet access is easily produced by an amateur with an old PC, gated and Linux
----- <snip> ----

Sounds like a Riverstone box!</snip>

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

cyber_techy 12/4/2012 | 10:21:17 PM

re: Juniper Nabs Unisphere for $740M In fact, I'm quite happily employed, with "Chief" being in my title for the last 8 years, in few jobs,

How hard could it be to become CEO of a one man company?

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

exRouterJock 12/4/2012 | 10:21:17 PM

re: Juniper Nabs Unisphere for $740M "Are those Unipshere folk feeling...

a. Excited?
b. Concerned?
c. Devastated?
d. or Ambivalent"

Most I've talked to are either a or d. They're definitely drinking the kool-aid they're being fed. I say, good luck. Hope it all works out for them -- very very good bunch of people.

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

exRouterJock 12/4/2012 | 10:21:17 PM

re: Juniper Nabs Unisphere for $740M "In fact, I'm quite happily employed, with "Chief" being in my title for the last 8 years, in few jobs, one of which was (surprise) building routers. I could provide more hints as to my credentials, but I prefer to stay incognito :)"

My guess: Chief Fry Vat Operator.

You're on dope if you think you can build a carrier class (read: highly available) scalable routing and aggreagation platform with rich policy using a PC and Linux for under a mil. If this were true, why haven't you done this and positioned yourself to Juniper?

Ding. Fries are up.

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

Lightmare 12/4/2012 | 10:21:16 PM

re: Juniper Nabs Unisphere for $740M LOB -

Are you the place kicker from the "Chiefs" the pet detective chased down in his 2nd movie?
Oh, wait a minute, that was a guy from the dolphins- sorry.

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

lob 12/4/2012 | 10:20:43 PM

re: Juniper Nabs Unisphere for $740M exRouterJock --

>You're on dope if you think you can build a >carrier class (read: highly available) scalable
>routing and aggreagation platform with
>rich policy using a PC and Linux for under a mil.

People routinely do highly available server farms using PCs and Linux.

Besides, we are speaking about _edge_ routers, not backbone, not customer aggregation (besides, you don't need or want a router to do customer aggregation; even a stupid TDM box can do the job - having routers in customer aggregation increases the size of iBGP mesh significantly, increasing convergence time or forcing use of klugdes like route reflectors or BGP confederations).

Besides, if you read NANOG mailing list (that's North American Network Operators Group, the guys who actually run backbones) you'll learn from today's postings that quite a few people used PC-based routers in production environments.

>If this were true, why haven't you done this and >positioned yourself to Juniper?

Because it is boring. There were zero new ideas in the marketplace for the last 5 years, so you cannot compete by building a better mousetrap - the competition in the segment is based now on having a shorter path to the big bosses. That's why cisco wins the market share.

As for featuritis (aka "rich policy" etc) - I do not percieve it to be an advantage for an edge box. In fact, I've seen so many misdesigned corporate networks using all the nifty knobs that I think cisco's "feature richness" is downright evil.

Even in the backbone world, some cisco "features" (like being able to select which kind of packet forwarding you want) do more harm than good by creating an undebuggable combinatorial explosion,
and by introducing subtle dependencies.

The rest of your message is pretty much unprofessional. Calling names is a sure sign of not having any useful arguments.

Reply | Post Message | MESSAGES LIST | START A BOARD

<< < Page 4 / 4