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sugarzee 12/4/2012 | 10:35:38 PM
re: Is Qwest Shunning Startups? You really piss us off.


WCG(R.ob) stockholders.
Belzebutt 12/4/2012 | 10:35:37 PM
re: Is Qwest Shunning Startups? Here's an example of how it worked with CoSine Communications: Qwest helped CoSine design, test, and analyze its equipment, a Qwest spokesman confirmed. In return, CoSine let some senior Qwest executives -- including former executive VP of corporate development, Marc Weisberg; executive VP and general counsel Drake Tempest; and executive VP and chief strategy officer Lewis Wilks -- buy "friends and family" shares before the startup went public.

If these practices don't deserve a post-Enron investigation, I don't know what does. Nobody cared when everyone made money, but now we all know the price. It's time the execs started being held accountable in North America.
ntwkeng 12/4/2012 | 10:35:33 PM
re: Is Qwest Shunning Startups? 'Friends and Family' was and is a common practice. I can't personally condone it. Progressive firms are restricting employees from accepting investment opportunities that are made available to them via their station.

Some of the crazier ones that have happened in the past were Foundry giving enough shares to key decision makers at Exodus to make them millionaire's.

beachboy 12/4/2012 | 10:35:31 PM
re: Is Qwest Shunning Startups? It wasn't just execs at the carriers, it was key decision makers like engineers in the test labs who benefited. Great if you were there at the time. You could argue that if it hadn't happened the stocks of those vendors wouldn't have sky-rocketed so much in the good times. But all similar stocks have bombed so it wouldn't have mattered who in optical networking you put your money into.
red1969 12/4/2012 | 10:35:27 PM
re: Is Qwest Shunning Startups? Will Procket / Caspian / Hyperchip be offering Friends and Family to clients?
metro_ether_man 12/4/2012 | 10:35:27 PM
re: Is Qwest Shunning Startups? Is'nt that type of gift giving illegal!
metro_ether_man 12/4/2012 | 10:35:27 PM
re: Is Qwest Shunning Startups? There are alot of companies out there that really do not appreciate the value that Test Engineering
delivers to a development group and ultimatley
thier customers.

This should always been done in conjunction with the development cycles. A contionus effort
for detailed conformance, compliance, performance,
interoperability and test automation engineering.
(Extremely Critical function).

There's nothing like falling on your face in front
of your potential customers because of the lack of
the above.

Your customers should'nt be doing any of this.
Plug it in, turn it on, no errata, cases or faults.

What a novel idea.
metro_ether_man 12/4/2012 | 10:35:26 PM
re: Is Qwest Shunning Startups? Remember the Sr. Development Test Engineer you laid of last month, now She/He is the Sr. Internetworking Architect at Qwest, thinking twice
about putting the product in there and looking for
alternative solutions.


optical_guy 12/4/2012 | 10:35:25 PM
re: Is Qwest Shunning Startups? Oh hell, Belzebutt - your company, NT, puts them on a private jet and takes them to the Masters. Everybody is bribing everybody...just sometimes it is better disguised than at others.

Iipoed 12/4/2012 | 10:35:24 PM
re: Is Qwest Shunning Startups? Other companies were Extreme Networks providing friends and family shares at qwest, yipes and many of the resellers they signed up prior to their IPO.
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