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digits 12/5/2012 | 4:29:11 PM
re: Interview: Basil Alwan & Lindsay Newell, AlcaLu IP Division

Is this what the west coast version of the Sopranos would be like?

Krembo 12/5/2012 | 4:29:08 PM
re: Interview: Basil Alwan & Lindsay Newell, AlcaLu IP Division

I hope for them that a new SR platform is on the way


Because the  7750 is old (2003)


I will buy MX960 or ASR9000 because the SR is the first to be EOL.

bytewatcher 12/5/2012 | 4:29:07 PM
re: Interview: Basil Alwan & Lindsay Newell, AlcaLu IP Division

Krembo,


I hope too, not because the SR was introduced in 2003 but because I need more 100G density for the Edge/Core and Datacenter applications.


Actually, despite the SR portfolio was introduce in 2003, they have version 3 of their IOM (from 20G per slot to 100G now), version 3 of their CPM, Version 3 of their Power supplies, new MDAs and even new cooling.


What's left? The iron maybe... but at least the CLI and software functionalities have been consistent across this changes, which made my life easier, as one of the early adopters.


bytewatcher

gigeguy 12/5/2012 | 4:29:07 PM
re: Interview: Basil Alwan & Lindsay Newell, AlcaLu IP Division

Guys, get your facts straight! Tellabs bought Vivace, not Vivaci! And according to the analysts, it's been more than "moderately unsuccessful" and continues to sell.

KC 12/5/2012 | 4:29:06 PM
re: Interview: Basil Alwan & Lindsay Newell, AlcaLu IP Division

Gosh, are our faces red! The egregious typographical blot has been repaired.


Thanks!


It's keen-eyed readers like you who keep us on our toes!

sgamble 12/5/2012 | 4:29:03 PM
re: Interview: Basil Alwan & Lindsay Newell, AlcaLu IP Division

Krembo,


I have a bridge I would like to sell you.  It's newer, untested and uses strange math to determine max capacity.  Interested?


Great article by the way.


 


Cheers,


Steve

Krembo 12/5/2012 | 4:29:02 PM
re: Interview: Basil Alwan & Lindsay Newell, AlcaLu IP Division

Hi Steve

I just think that if you need to deploy a NEW  MPLS/VPLS networks the age ALU of the portfolio
Has something against them.
That switch should be in service around 5 years ,it will be not funny to explain your CEO that
“New”   switch/router is EOL after 2 years .

Personally I think the SR/ESS is very good specially   in the carrier Ethernet  (PBB /VPLS) deployment
And about that bridge ohh I mange just fine with the hub I got for Xmass.

J
Krembo
(I don’t work for Juniper Cisco  Ciena or Alu)





 


 




sgamble 12/5/2012 | 4:29:01 PM
re: Interview: Basil Alwan & Lindsay Newell, AlcaLu IP Division

Krembo,


You keep mentioning a 2 year life span.  Even if you are throwing your thumb in the air and guessing I would ask you explain that.  Maybe I am missing it.  Another poster and I have mentioned that, because of the way the box was architected, they just add capacity by swapping out CPM and IOM and MDA line cards.  There is no forklift.  This allows you to upgrade your capacity where you need it.


Try telling a Cisco customer who rolled out 6500 and 7600's who want to upgrade to 100G that they need a forklift to the ASR.  It's expensive in terms of CAPEX and OPEX.  The 6500 and 7600 100G story was terrible and it's one of the reasons the ASR was created. 


If I use your argument, I'd never buy a 6500 or 7600 ever again.  Cisco hasn't announced those as EOL and there are still some great uses for these in the aggregation if I don't need 100G.  These are great boxes if I don't need 100G (big fan of the 6500/7600 - Cisco did a great job stretching these out).


I'll add one more argument.  Why do you think vendors along with Ethernet standard groups went to 100G and skipped 40G?  It wasn't just a matter of economics.  There is a need for 100G today and future.  Ask Qwest, ATT or Verizon who are adding capacity by adding 10G ports in a LAG.


If 100G is the 'next big thing' how can you say the 7750, which I would argue from a services/access point of view can do it as well or better than anyone, has 2 years remaining?  That's where I am confused.


You are fixed on the date the box was put in service.  I am fixed on what technology it supports today and 5 years from now.  As an operator I am also happy that the box has had a long burn-in which makes me comfortable.  From a CAPEX/amortization period it's easy to say 5 more years and can maybe push 10 years if my network strategy is known.


Ask Qwest and Verizon if they are worried since they just announced they are using the 7450 and 7750 for 100G.


Have a great weekend.


 


Cheers & Beers,


Steve


 

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