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Option B 12/5/2012 | 5:08:48 PM
re: Huawei's Open Letter to the US

How many big companies in US have already deals with Huawei/ZTE?


Could they keep it secret for long?

eurichardson 12/5/2012 | 5:11:15 PM
re: Huawei's Open Letter to the US

This letter is hilarious. Thank you, Mr. Hu.


There are quotes from Abraham Lincoln and Obama, mixed in with a promise to promote human rights in the US, and a call to choose hope over fear.


Thoroughly enjoyed it. Please keep it coming.


Cheers

DCITDave 12/5/2012 | 5:11:25 PM
re: Huawei's Open Letter to the US

Hey guys,


Keep the posts civil,please. You can be snarky, mean, sarcastic and so on, but let's steer clear of threats and wishing anyone ill will. Let that to the professionals.


As you were.


ph

Telecomguy0704 12/5/2012 | 5:11:27 PM
re: Huawei's Open Letter to the US

Huawei/ZTE is a PRIVATE company in China. Basically, it cannot act in its own self-interest; without the Chinese Communist Party interferences.

Here is the proof.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-07/10/content_6142022.htm

“Primary Party organizations are formed in China's mainland enterprises, rural areas, government departments, schools, scientific research institutes, communities, mass organizations, intermediaries, companies of the People's Liberation Army and other basic units, where there are at least three full Party members.”

How much more proof do we need, to show their 4G/LTE equipments will be good for our national security?



"Ask Huawei what its doing under subsidiary or third party partners with European software engineers in Shenzen area and not limited to that area?
Ask Foxcon what she is doing with the firmware that its embedded in different boards?
Happy outsourcing US and EU"


paolo.franzoi 12/5/2012 | 5:11:33 PM
re: Huawei's Open Letter to the US

 


None of those was government funded. Government funding means that the money for the research was given by the government in part or in whole.  If you are saying that Government being a user/supporter/builder in response to a technology means that ALL technology was government funded then I guess even FIRE was government funded since I am sure some guy showed some other guy how to make Fire.


 


seven


 

paolo.franzoi 12/5/2012 | 5:11:33 PM
re: Huawei's Open Letter to the US

Government research funding is very recent.  Think of the following inventions:


1 - The Light Bulb


2 - The Internal Combustion Engine


3 - The Airplane


4 - Television


5 - The Laser


6 - The Integrated Circuit


Even post-WWII, I would argue most technological advances are NOT funded by government research.  WWI was really the first Technology War and WWII really drove lots of research into government (The Manhattan Project being the key). 


seven


 

stratboydave 12/5/2012 | 5:11:33 PM
re: Huawei's Open Letter to the US

Intersting, so every single item in your list was funded, or propogated by the government. The light bulb! Government funded, and I don't mean by giving Edison a bunch of seed money, there's other ways to fund, like buying a bunch of it, giving right of ways to companies so they can lay the wires etc. That's why we will never really have a truly cometitive telecommunications market - the wires are all owned by the Tier 1 carriers, and the right of ways. Some folks tried to get around this by laying fiber along RR tracks during the dotcom boom - they're are all out of business or acquired.


Internal Combustion Engine - where would the ICE be without roads? All provided by the government. Ongoing research - government funded. Even majority owned by the goverment recently...and the DoD bought tons of them for military purposes thereby kickstarting the industry. I don't think it would have been very successful without some government involvement.


The airplane, seriously? We'd still be flying biplanes and landing on dirt runways if it wasn't for the DoD.


Television, another DUH...


Laser? Invented in a lab funded at least in part by the government for government applications intially, same with fiber optics... Sometimes the government "funds" technology by purchasing it in the early adoptor phase to keep development moving. VoIP would be a good example. Back in the early 2000's the government was the only one buying this stuff in bulk, and by doing so financing continued research and market momentum. And keeping Cisco rolling along even during the dotcom bust.


Integrated Circuit... go back and read your history books, government funded. The US government has it's fingers in every new technology out there way before we even hear about it.


Sure the government is filled with a lot of dead wood and waste but it's also got some of the smartest people on the planet working on research projects at universities that they fund, and have first crack at, and get to decide if they want to release to the public. Case in point, the DoD has been developing and testing umanned flight vehicles/drones for at least 15 years if not longer. When did we first hear about them? Stealth Bomber? Worked on that for 20 years before we even knew it existed... and there's a whole lot more that we won't hear about, ever.

stratboydave 12/5/2012 | 5:11:33 PM
re: Huawei's Open Letter to the US

LoL, you are correct that the goverment doesn't actually invent any technology but they sure fund a whole bunch. Almost every technological advance, including the internet, can be traced to a US government funded research project.


The government knows how to scale techonology, that's what they're good at, not great but good. If you don't think that NSA and the government are using bleeding edge technology then you obviously haven't spent much time in the environment. The government, and the DoD in partiucular are using technology today that you won't see commercially for at least 5-10 years. They also use some of the oldest technology, think 3270, since the apps were written for it.


Can you buy a system commercially that will perform IDS at the photon level? The feds are already doing it... and that's just the stuff that's public. Having grown up in DC I can assure you that the stuff they make public is probably years behind what they are currently doing. There's no way they're going to let anyone know what they're really doing and NSA has a blind budget. They don't have to tell anyone what the money is for, or what they're going to do with it, blank check... you can buy a whole lot of tech with a blank check, massive amounts.

stratboydave 12/5/2012 | 5:11:34 PM
re: Huawei's Open Letter to the US

It's a communist country. Don't trust them. Don't buy Chinese made goods unless I absolutely have to. Definitely would not buy any network gear from them. If I was in the goverment, especaially DoD, I wouln't even talk to them. They are not our friend or "ally", they are our enemy. Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer... but under intense scrutiny.

bollocks187 12/5/2012 | 5:11:38 PM
re: Huawei's Open Letter to the US

Let get real this is simple a case of the US companies petitioning the govt for protection. Why its simple they make products as good as the West at half the price i.e. its ALL BS.


WHile it is acceptbale to manufactuer Everything in CHINA. The Chinese govt could  turn of the spigot and we would get no equipment in the West - nothing. 


So there is nothing to protect anymore the world has changed.


If Huawei is not allowed to compete in the USA, then one can argue that quid pro quo may occur and the Chinese govt can turn nasty and put force it telecom folks to complete elminate all western products and replace with chinese now matter how inferior. This would put a dent in Western companies bank balance. In addition a manufacturing tax increase of 5% would also add money to the coffers.


 


 

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